The NHL thread

[CFH]

It's much more interesting with a 2 team environment. I love it, I love having Raider fans and 49er fans and that being all there is, it just makes things more itneresting because otherwise it's boring. Especially when people like teams not from the area, I know more Laker fans then Warrior fans probably. Not the case with the Sharks because the only people who care about hockey at all are Sharks fans here.

Toronto already has 29 different teams worth of rival fans who hate them. Ask a fan of any of the other Canadian teams what they think of the Leafs. They don't need another team in their region to have that kind of atmosphere. There are also Leafs fans in every Canadian city, so any Leaf games in other cities have that same atmosphere as well. There are always a fair number of people at Vancouver-Toronto games wearing Leafs jerseys and reveling in the abuse that is heaped upon them.

[amat]

It's much more interesting with a 2 team environment. I love it, I love having Raider fans and 49er fans and that being all there is, it just makes things more itneresting because otherwise it's boring. Especially when people like teams not from the area, I know more Laker fans then Warrior fans probably. Not the case with the Sharks because the only people who care about hockey at all are Sharks fans here.

Toronto already has 29 different teams worth of rival fans who hate them. Ask a fan of any of the other Canadian teams what they think of the Leafs. They don't need another team in their region to have that kind of atmosphere. There are also Leafs fans in every Canadian city, so any Leaf games in other cities have that same atmosphere as well. There are always a fair number of people at Vancouver-Toronto games wearing Leafs jerseys and reveling in the abuse that is heaped upon them.

I thought about that just after I posted that but whatever, it might divide Toronto though I doubt it the Dallas Cowboys haven't been hurt to much by the Texans.

[amat]

Also I have no concept of Canadian geography (or any geography really) so I'm not really good for this discussion.

[killersheep]

Also I have no concept of Canadian geography (or any geography really) so I'm not really good for this discussion.

Hope this helps

[Mikkel_K]

Also I have no concept of Canadian geography (or any geography really) so I'm not really good for this discussion.

Hope this helps

I'm probably even more lost than Amat when it comes to Canadian geography, so thanks for that map! I have a few questions still, though

Where is Hamilton (or am I blind?), and which is the biggest Canadian city without a NHL-team? Winnipeg? Quebec City? Both of those have had teams relocated before, right?

[Also, it should not go unnoticed that placing the North Pole in Canadian territory is at best disputed. Everyone knows it belongs to Denmark ]

[killersheep]

Also I have no concept of Canadian geography (or any geography really) so I'm not really good for this discussion.

Hope this helps

I'm probably even more lost than Amat when it comes to Canadian geography, so thanks for that map! I have a few questions still, though

Where is Hamilton (or am I blind?), and which is the biggest Canadian city without a NHL-team? Winnipeg? Quebec City? Both of those have had teams relocated before, right?

[Also, it should not go unnoticed that placing the North Pole in Canadian territory is at best disputed. Everyone knows it belongs to Denmark ]

Hamilton is very close to Toronto (the southern most city labelled on the map, nestled between the Lake Erie and Lake Huron)

by population
Quebec City has 715,515
- Quebec City had the Quebec Nordiques which changed into the Colorado Avalanche

Winnipeg has 694,668
- Winnipeg used to have the Jets which morphed into the Phoenix Coyotes

Hamilton has 692,911
- Had a team a long time ago called the Hamilton Tigers

[Youngblood]

Winnipeg has proven not to have the fanbase to support an NHL team, so this to me would be simply a step backwards in time. There is nothing remotely close to it to draw from outside the city.

Hamilton would atleast have the drawing power from the many populated cities in close proximity and is a viable option. To retry something proven not to work is a fools errand fuelled merely by sentiment.

Plus our government needs to have a little more patriotism when it comes to our sports. Our teams can barely afford to operate here, so get sold to cities in the states...where tax breaks and incentives make it possible for them to see profits and survive.

This same standard of putting our countries amateur sports on the back burner is evident in the next to nothing, or miniscule support towards programs that lead to olympic qualifiers. It is commonplace to have a knock on your door by someone holding a can, asking for a donation that on it reads..."Support our Olympic Athletes."

Ask them about it, you'll often get the answer.."Well I qualified, or my son or daughter did...and we are trying to raise the funds to actually go." Sound ridiculous? Yes, it is. We, a world power have so little support and pride in our own sports programs, that this is often what it boils down to.

[killersheep]

Winnipeg has proven not to have the fanbase to support an NHL team, so this to me would be simply a step backwards in time. There is nothing remotely close to it to draw from outside the city.

Hamilton would atleast have the drawing power from the many populated cities in close proximity and is a viable option. To retry something proven not to work is a fools errand fuelled merely by sentiment.

Plus our government needs to have a little more patriotism when it comes to our sports. Our teams can barely afford to operate here, so get sold to cities in the states...where tax breaks and incentives make it possible for them to see profits and survive.

This same standard of putting our countries amateur sports on the back burner is evident and is the next to nothing, or miniscule support towards programs that lead to olympic qualifiers. It is commonplace to have a knock on your door by someone holding a can, asking for a donation that on it reads..."Support our Olympic Athletes."

Ask them about it, you'll often get the answer.."Well I qualified, or my son or daughter did...and we are trying to raise the funds to actually go." Sound ridiculous? Yes, it is. We, a world power have so little support and pride in our own sports programs, that this is often what it boils down to.

Agreed case in point the Jets moving to Phoenix, it's cool I can get hockey here, but for christ's sakes it's a desert.