43 Year old Hopkins is Prime Hopkins ?

[Taeth]

Didn't we just do this 2 weeks ago? Or right after Hopkins beat Pavlik. The consensus is that Bernard is NOT in his prime its ridiculous to say. Also look at who he has just beaten

Old, overweight Winky, barely
Old, weightdrained Tarver impressive, but still Tarver was a zombie in there

The only great fight he has had was against Joe Calzaghe and they came up about even either way.
And the Pavlik fight, but still I thought it was obvious his style would do that to Pavlik.

You can't compare him and his competition to his prime because the guys he is fighting aren't in their prime either, except Pavlik but that was obvious if HOpkins fought he would win like that, at least to me.

It's not ridiculous to say btw. Some people get better with age.
Look at Randy Cotoure.

Name one of those guys besides maybe Calzaghe that were anywhere near their prime. Tarver? Winky?

[intoccabile]

Didn't we just do this 2 weeks ago? Or right after Hopkins beat Pavlik. The consensus is that Bernard is NOT in his prime its ridiculous to say. Also look at who he has just beaten

Old, overweight Winky, barely
Old, weightdrained Tarver impressive, but still Tarver was a zombie in there

The only great fight he has had was against Joe Calzaghe and they came up about even either way.
And the Pavlik fight, but still I thought it was obvious his style would do that to Pavlik.

You can't compare him and his competition to his prime because the guys he is fighting aren't in their prime either, except Pavlik but that was obvious if HOpkins fought he would win like that, at least to me.

It's not ridiculous to say btw. Some people get better with age.
Look at Randy Cotoure.

Name one of those guys besides maybe Calzaghe that were anywhere near their prime. Tarver? Winky?

Did I say he was in his prime?
I said its not ridiculous to say. Look how much more disciplined and skilled
he is today. He's never been this "skilled".

[Taeth]

Tarver wasn't, Winky wasn't better, he was way slower when he fought Hopkins at 170, way less sharp.

I think Joe is the only won that would beat himself in his prime as he is now. I think he has put on speed by taking off the power on his punches.

The point I am making is that regardless of who HOpkins has been fighting he was better in his prime.

[intoccabile]

Tarver wasn't, Winky wasn't better, he was way slower when he fought Hopkins at 170, way less sharp.

I think Joe is the only won that would beat himself in his prime as he is now. I think he has put on speed by taking off the power on his punches.

The point I am making is that regardless of who HOpkins has been fighting he was better in his prime.

Understood. But in bhops "physical" prime, he did not have the "skill" he has now.
Right now, imo, he is in his prime, technically. Not physically.

[Pugilistic]

No way.

Hopkins prime was from 97 to 03.