As of right now, who could beat Calzaghe?

[BIG H]

All I'll say is mate, if you don't like Calzaghe for his oppostion, check out who Jones fought throughout his reign at SMW and LHW And check out who B-Hop fought through 10 years as MW champion and tell me you like them because of their opposition

First off, this was not the question at hand, we're talking about Joe.. So, if you have to defend Joe in that fashion, by comparing his resume to someone elses resume who you consider not so good, then you're already scraping the bottom of the bucket..

It's pretty damn clear that his opposition was less than mediocre in his prime, that is NOT even debatable..

Jones and Hopkins CLEARLY had much better opposition in their prime.. without even going through names, they had a LOT more exciting careers as far as big fights..

This is Hopkins Prime opposition during his reign at Middleweight. Care to revise that statement?

Robert Allen THREE TIMES
William Joppy
Morrade Hakkar
Carl Daniels
Keith Holmes
Antwon Echols TWICE
Syd Vanderpool
Simon Brown
Andrrew Council
John David Jackson
William Bo James
Joe Lipsey
Glen Johnson
Steve Frank
Segundo Mercado

[Wadeb_21]

Being a huge fan of James Toney I can't help but wish he was back in the Light Heavy or Super Middle weight division right now. I think a fight between him and Joe would be outstanding. I think both would push each other to the limits and it would be a great fight. I think it would be allot better of a fight then both the Roy vs Joe fight and the bhop vs Joe fight.

[No Contest]

I think Dawson would give him toughest fight. I doubt Joe wants to take that risk, because I can see it now...."Chad Dawson is a nobody what has he done"....

[Taeth]

Being a huge fan of James Toney I can't help but wish he was back in the Light Heavy or Super Middle weight division right now. I think a fight between him and Joe would be outstanding. I think both would push each other to the limits and it would be a great fight. I think it would be allot better of a fight then both the Roy vs Joe fight and the bhop vs Joe fight.

Are you kidding me? James Toney at this stage can't react to Samuel Peters' speed let alone Joe Calzaghe's.

[Taeth]

All I'll say is mate, if you don't like Calzaghe for his oppostion, check out who Jones fought throughout his reign at SMW and LHW And check out who B-Hop fought through 10 years as MW champion and tell me you like them because of their opposition

First off, this was not the question at hand, we're talking about Joe.. So, if you have to defend Joe in that fashion, by comparing his resume to someone elses resume who you consider not so good, then you're already scraping the bottom of the bucket..

It's pretty damn clear that his opposition was less than mediocre in his prime, that is NOT even debatable..

Jones and Hopkins CLEARLY had much better opposition in their prime.. without even going through names, they had a LOT more exciting careers as far as big fights..

This is Hopkins Prime opposition during his reign at Middleweight. Care to revise that statement?

Robert Allen THREE TIMES
William Joppy
Morrade Hakkar
Carl Daniels
Keith Holmes
Antwon Echols TWICE
Syd Vanderpool
Simon Brown
Andrrew Council
John David Jackson
William Bo James
Joe Lipsey
Glen Johnson
Steve Frank
Segundo Mercado

That list is better then what Calzaghe faced.
Antwon Echols was a dangerous fighter in his prime, Council was a good fighter, John David Jackson was a good fighter, Glen Johnson was and is a very good fighter thats when he was still the undefeated version of Glen Johnson.

[ross]

If Calzaghe punches like a girl what does that make the poeple who cant live with him?

[littlerock]

At LHW I'd say Dawson and Cloud might be able to give Calzaghe a better fight than Hopkins or Kessler did.

And call me crazy but Taylor, if he beats Lacy convincingly, brings a lot of positives into a Calzaghe fight.

1. Taylor fights to the level of his competition, meaning we might see the best version of Taylor in the ring against Joe

2. Taylor is fast, strong, and awkward in the ring. He won't be able to outwork Joe so he'd have to slow Joe down by giving him something to think about (like Hopkins did the first four rounds against Joe).

3. Most importantly... Taylor's been beaten before. Twice. Once by KO, once by UD. He's got nothing to lose that he hasn't already had taken from him. I think mentally this could make him more fearless in the ring, since he knows that the only thing he's got to lose is the fight itself. Not his pride, not his undefeated record, not his career. I think against Calzaghe we'd see him put it all out there for 12 rounds... yes, even if he's gassed... unlike RJJ and Hopkins, who had nothing, physically or mentally... down the stretch.

[RP33]

First off, this was not the question at hand, we're talking about Joe.. So, if you have to defend Joe in that fashion, by comparing his resume to someone elses resume who you consider not so good, then you're already scraping the bottom of the bucket..

It's pretty damn clear that his opposition was less than mediocre in his prime, that is NOT even debatable..

Jones and Hopkins CLEARLY had much better opposition in their prime.. without even going through names, they had a LOT more exciting careers as far as big fights..

This is Hopkins Prime opposition during his reign at Middleweight. Care to revise that statement?

Robert Allen THREE TIMES
William Joppy
Morrade Hakkar
Carl Daniels
Keith Holmes
Antwon Echols TWICE
Syd Vanderpool
Simon Brown
Andrrew Council
John David Jackson
William Bo James
Joe Lipsey
Glen Johnson
Steve Frank
Segundo Mercado

That list is better then what Calzaghe faced.
Antwon Echols was a dangerous fighter in his prime, Council was a good fighter, John David Jackson was a good fighter, Glen Johnson was and is a very good fighter thats when he was still the undefeated version of Glen Johnson.

Big H, why didn't you list Trinidad in that list? Just curious..

In his prime, he faced better opposition, no doubt..

Even past his prime, in the last few years, he's fought De la hoya, Taylor twice (two close decisions), Tarver, Winky, and an up and comer in Pavlik..

Compared to, Lacy, Kessler, Bika, Manfredo, Roy Jones of late for Calzaghe..

There is no comparison.

[GAME]

First off, this was not the question at hand, we're talking about Joe.. So, if you have to defend Joe in that fashion, by comparing his resume to someone elses resume who you consider not so good, then you're already scraping the bottom of the bucket..

It's pretty damn clear that his opposition was less than mediocre in his prime, that is NOT even debatable..

Jones and Hopkins CLEARLY had much better opposition in their prime.. without even going through names, they had a LOT more exciting careers as far as big fights..

Johnson was never anything special until he beat Jones. Back in the day Johnson lost to guys like Omar Sheika

This is Hopkins Prime opposition during his reign at Middleweight. Care to revise that statement?

Robert Allen THREE TIMES
William Joppy
Morrade Hakkar
Carl Daniels
Keith Holmes
Antwon Echols TWICE
Syd Vanderpool
Simon Brown
Andrrew Council
John David Jackson
William Bo James
Joe Lipsey
Glen Johnson
Steve Frank
Segundo Mercado

That list is better then what Calzaghe faced.
Antwon Echols was a dangerous fighter in his prime, Council was a good fighter, John David Jackson was a good fighter, Glen Johnson was and is a very good fighter thats when he was still the undefeated version of Glen Johnson.

Johnson wasnt anything special until he beat Jones. He lost to guys like Omar Sheika back then

[Taeth]

Lol maybe he got robbed against Omar Sheika. Besides in he taking boxing seriously for a bit, since then he has been very solid, but he has been robbed numourous times.

[yvonne]

Carl Froch has the tools to give Calzaghe real trouble.Froch has raw power in both hands and has the youth too.

[CutMeMick]

Excuse me while I throw up here but how in the hell is Tavoris being even mentioned here?
Love the kid and he's def. opened up some eyes but come on people.

Why would Joe or for that matter any of the top guys bother with Cloud?
The kids only beat Julio G. whos at best a good/decent fighter.
I mean boxers like Erdei, Glen or even the winner of Brahemer-Garay would deserve could have a better shot at beating Joe.

Lets not go crazy here... Next thing you'll know people will also list Diaconu as someone who Joe should fight.

IMO if it's not BCD or a rematch with Hopkins he shouldn't fight at all.

[ICB]

Excuse me while I throw up here but how in the hell is Tavoris being even mentioned here?
Love the kid and he's def. opened up some eyes but come on people.

Why would Joe or for that matter any of the top guys bother with Cloud?
The kids only beat Julio G. whos at best a good/decent fighter.
I mean boxers like Erdei, Glen or even the winner of Brahemer-Garay would deserve could have a better shot at beating Joe.

Lets not go crazy here... Next thing you'll know people will also list Diaconu as someone who Joe should fight.

IMO if it's not BCD or a rematch with Hopkins he shouldn't fight at all.

I never said Joe Calzaghe should fight Tavoris Cloud, the question was who could beat Joe Calzaghe. And i give Tavoris Cloud a decent shot, although he needs more experience against the top names. Im very impressed with him so far, Julio Cesar Gonzalez had never been stopped.

[ross]

Carl Froch has the tools to give Calzaghe real trouble.Froch has raw power in both hands and has the youth too.

Ok, when has Froch proved he has power?

Youth!! Youth!!! Dont make me fuucking laugh, he may be younger than Joe but he isnt young at 31

Whats even more ridiculous is people mentioning his name alongside Joe as a possible superstar opponent

Froch means nothing on the world stage, he has no belt, he hasnt even fought for one yet

Joe should bullshiit the mothy prick and tell him and Kessler a winner between the two of them gets a match with Joe, see how eager Froch is then, Kessler would deffo be up for it, he sees an inexperienced old man who gets hit easy, an easy route back to a title shot