Size Limit on Heavyweights?

[Sapphire]

We have a Super Cruiserweight division in Australia which is 86kg to 95kg. you guys will have to figure out what that is in lbs.

[The Fightfan]

We have a Super Cruiserweight division in Australia which is 86kg to 95kg. you guys will have to figure out what that is in lbs.

You damn outsider's with your Keys and Grams. Damn it let me think. UMMM yeah that's what I said 209 lbs is 95 key's. So we're on the same page.

[C-Lo]

If we increase the weight limit for heavyweights, imagine the physiques of those fighters considering how bad they are now. Some of them don't even look like athletes, let alone boxers.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Who is going to top valuev? some guy 7 foot 7 weighing 400 pounds? the heavyweight division is a circus freak exhibition.

[Kel]

Who is going to top valuev? some guy 7 foot 7 weighing 400 pounds? the heavyweight division is a circus freak exhibition.

That's because it can be, imagine Valuev againsed the likes of Lewis, Bowe, Holmes, Foreman, Holyfield, Tyson or Tua? even Moorer, McCall, Bruno, Ruddock etc.....christ when you name all these guys you realise what the division is missing....some proper talented fighters. They would all smack that lanky fuck to next year.

I'm sick to death of these fat fuckers with piss poor footwork who can't even slip punches properly or even work off a jab, they match these guys with a KO in mind "er yeah, he hits hard, he has shit defense, should end in a KO". It's still not exiting though because most heavies are fucking shit. I can go round the back of a pub and see the same shit.

Rant over

[Kev]

Why should there be another weight class?

Beyond a certain point any size advantage these guys have is outweighed by the fact it makes them slow and ponderous, with poor movement and very upright.

Guys like Wlad and Vitali and Lewis before them are the maximum height to be to take maximum advantage. Any taller and history has shown repeatedly that it becomes a liability rather thana an asset.

The division is great as it is. I already think there are far too many weight classes, 8 is plenty, I really don't want to see another one.

[Tysonbruno]

Imagine if Valuev could punch his weight he would hit whoever and it would be where did he go then you would hear a scream and he has landed on the car park attendant if Valuev hit hard it would be exciting to watch him.

[El Kabong]

Who is going to top valuev? some guy 7 foot 7 weighing 400 pounds? the heavyweight division is a circus freak exhibition.

When and IF Valuev decides to fight a REAL heavyweight he'll get his ass handed to him.

Wladimir and Vitali and any other power punchers would be tough for Valuev to beat. Valuev already lost to Ruslan Chagaev who is not a very big guy.

[SEB]

Vitali, Wlad would beat Valuev by KO, I'm almost certain.

And please remember that Chagaev gave him a boxing lesson. Valuev won very close Decission agaisnt Ruiz and Larry Donald, who according to me are not at the same level as Tyson and Lewis were comparatively :-)

Seb

[SEB]

Sorry for the double post.

but in fact that has been a discussion for years. I'm still convinced (being a small heavyweight myself) that a good small boxer would outslaught a bad tall one. Of course agaisnt boxer like Lennox or Wlad it's problematic. they can box and they're pretty big. But even then, Tyson would have ko wlad like corey sanders was able to do. being tall and heavy doesn't mean that you're fast, strong, have stamina, are smart enough, have the will and the experience to take punch.

The fact that tall boxer have an advantage of reach is something, but honestly, I still remember small boxer putting down Primo Camera (who was a MONSTER at the time).

[mrodub]

Cruiserweight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This division was created in a different era for the same reason i am stating if you look at the size of the heavyweights then they are tiny compared to todays so the argument that the cruiserweight division is there for this reason goes out the window considering 6'5 250lbs was huge back then and is average now, were talking about 7'2 350lbs a man of 210lbs should not have to fight this, so the cruiserweight was created for a different era altogether