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    Default Re: Glenn Johnson

    This poor bloke has been stiffed more times than Augustus. Just not fair.

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    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, but i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, ut i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.
    You have to be kidding? Johnson, a come forward semi-plodder, is a bad style match for Calzaghe?

    The only reason Bika and Salem had Calzaghe in rough physical fights is because they DIDN'T come to fight they came to SURVIVE.

    Johnson doesn't even have a punchers chance against Calzaghe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, ut i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.
    You have to be kidding? Johnson, a come forward semi-plodder, is a bad style match for Calzaghe?

    The only reason Bika and Salem had Calzaghe in rough physical fights is because they DIDN'T come to fight they came to SURVIVE.

    Johnson doesn't even have a punchers chance against Calzaghe.
    Sakio Bika didn't come to survive he made it a rough/physical fight. And won most of the later rounds, and Sakio Bika is much more limited than Glen Johnson.

    Glen Johnson is a master at rough/physical fights, he would close the distance. And go to work on the inside, plus his workrate is very good so Joe Calzaghe's workrate wouldn't bother him.

    I somehow see this one going another 10 pages though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, ut i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.
    You have to be kidding? Johnson, a come forward semi-plodder, is a bad style match for Calzaghe?

    The only reason Bika and Salem had Calzaghe in rough physical fights is because they DIDN'T come to fight they came to SURVIVE.

    Johnson doesn't even have a punchers chance against Calzaghe.
    Sakio Bika didn't come to survive he made it a rough/physical fight. And won most of the later rounds, and Sakio Bika is much more limited than Glen Johnson.

    Glen Johnson is a master at rough/physical fights, he would close the distance. And go to work on the inside, plus his workrate is very good so Joe Calzaghe's workrate wouldn't bother him.

    I somehow see this one going another 10 pages though.
    Bika doesn't fight anything like Johnson. Against Calzaghe he stood like a statue, the majority of the fight, waiting for Joe to get close enough for him to unleash headbutts and gooly shots. Apart from that, all he did was throw his huge wild wingers.

    Johnson would be the one steadily coming forward - but look like he's moving in treacle compared with Joes speed, angles and volume. He tired quite markedly in the 3rd Woods fight. He'd never get away with that vs Calzaghe. So the workrate could be a big problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    This poor bloke has been stiffed more times than Augustus. Just not fair.
    I assume you mean Johnson...u
    NOBODY has ever been stiffed more than Augustas, be fair man. THis last one pissed me off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    This poor bloke has been stiffed more times than Augustus. Just not fair.
    I assume you mean Johnson...u
    NOBODY has ever been stiffed more than Augustas, be fair man. THis last one pissed me off.
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    Default Re: Glenn Johnson

    I wouldnt call Johnson a late bloomer, he got seriously screwed up after the Hopkins fight. This happens all the time with Hopkins opponents. Joe might be the only guy who just stuck with his game plan after Hopkins, him and Jones. Nobody looks the same after Hopkins, but Johnson was cruising before Hopkins.
    Hell Taylor "beat"(ha ha) Hopkins, and has never looked the same since then

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    I think Glenn could beat Calzaghe Joe pulled out with a bad back twice because he knew what would happen to him even Frank Warren himself has said Calzaghe was a nightmare to make fights for and he had pulled out of about 10 fights perhaps this is why he is 46-0.

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    Default Re: Glenn Johnson

    Also Glenn is 40 next year so he fits into Calzaghe's opponent list nicely.

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    I like Johndon, and would like to see him have one last shot seeing as he's been there or there abouts, and also put a very good showing against Dawson. IMO he didn't win that fight, but it was very close.

    Johnson's problem is that he is very one paced (not dimensional), same tempo throughout the fight. Against Dawson it was almost as if Chad could pick the rounds he wanted to win by picking the pace up past what Glenn could muster, though he didn't have the stamina to do it every round.

    While Johnson is tough as nails and won't be stopped, he is tailor made for Calzaghe. While Bika did more than just come to survive against Joe, he was fighting on the back foot all night waiting to counter, which couldn't BE more different to Johnson's strategy. He has the same chance as anyone else against Calzaghe which is a punchers chance. The guys with the best chance of beating Joe are Hop and Kess, then probably Dawson of the guys he hasn't faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragos Bitch View Post
    I think Glenn could beat Calzaghe Joe pulled out with a bad back twice because he knew what would happen to him even Frank Warren himself has said Calzaghe was a nightmare to make fights for and he had pulled out of about 10 fights perhaps this is why he is 46-0.
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    I like the open letter Glen made for Joe... For those who havent read it

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/8592-joe-...n-johnson.html

    Cmon Joe make it happen

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    Glen Johnson is a great man and fighter, he is a hard man, but lets be honset there are three/four fights out there that are more meaningful for Joe to take, Dawson/Hopkins/Kessler/Froch. Before we can talk Johnson, that letter comes off a little desperate imo. I respect Glen but he should be chasing a rematch with Dawson before shouting out Calzaghe, also Joe was going to fight Glen if he would of beat Clinton Woods in there rubber match which he didnt. Whatever reason Joe didnt fight Glen for i dont think the timing is quite right for it to happen now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Glen Johnson is a great man and fighter, he is a hard man, but lets be honset there are three/four fights out there that are more meaningful for Joe to take, Dawson/Hopkins/Kessler/Froch. Before we can talk Johnson, that letter comes off a little desperate imo. I respect Glen but he should be chasing a rematch with Dawson before shouting out Calzaghe, also Joe was going to fight Glen if he would of beat Clinton Woods in there rubber match which he didnt. Whatever reason Joe didnt fight Glen for i dont think the timing is quite right for it to happen now.
    Joe's already fought Hopkins and Kessler
    No idea how Froch got on your list for meaningful fights.
    Dawson is legit.

    There is already history with Calzaghe and Johnson, They are both part of the super popular senior league at 175. Johnson IMO is the best fight for Calzaghe, definately not the most profitable, but the most meaningful.
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