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    Default Re: < David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

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    No I don't let my emotions get the better of me when assessing a fighter...I go by performances and what they are doing in the ring....You are using fanboy mentality....

    You show your fanboy mentality by saying things such as "I have his career set do you?".....As if you are a kid showing off his new bike.....give it a break....If the guy allows someone like Barrett to make them fight his fight then someone the caliber of Vitaly would certainly have no problem....

    But just to save you from any further headaches of trying to defend your fighter I will just put it straight..

    Haye does not have the punching power to stop Vitaly...(neither does anyone else in the division).....He will not outbox Vitaly...He will not outslug Vitaly....He can not beat Vitaly simple as that
    Oh please. I'm a grown man I'm not a 'fanboy' nor do I follow internet lingo; the purpose of me identifying that I have the David Haye box set was to let you know I have seen every single fight I have many other Box sets also not all of fighters I am a fan of.

    Now having watched every fight boxers like Mormeck and Fragomeni (I'm not saying they are better than the Klitscho brothers) had a good enough amount of respect from Haye to ensure he sticks to his game plan until the knockout! My point was just because Haye didn't display that amount of respect here in one fight does not show his inability to stick to a game plan or be calm etc.

    You have made an assessment of athletic ability based upon how many fights? where as I have made my assessment based on a career.

    Firstoff "Fanboy" is not just internet lingo...There are biased announcers that exibit the same thing at times.....

    If you actually believe that I have only seen one of Hayes fights and judge him on that alone then you just add to the Fanboy mentality IMO you are approaching your opinion of Haye with.....

    If you actually read everything I said about Haye you would see I never said he always fought like that I used the fight with Barrett as a point on how he can not act if he ever expects to succeed in the HW division and if he is getting overzealous with a guy like Barrett and allowing a guy like Barrett to make him fight that erratic then what will he do when a genuine hard hitting mega HW is in there tapping him...

    Fighters like many fans do not seem to realize the power difference between the CW division even the hardest of bangers and that of a 6'5" or 6'6" 245lb HW...or even one at 6'2" and 225lbs...whatis considered a light hitter in the HW ranks can be a power puncher in the CW division....

    A fighter taste power he is not used to he can lose control...very easily....add that power coming from a man with skill and control that makes it even more dangerous....

    Both klitschkos have that power..they hit hard for even heavyweights...Vitaly is especially brutal when he wants to be...He can also take the punches of the divisions biggest hitters and walk through them....Peter could not phase him..(Regardless of peoples opp of his chin or skill set the man can hit hard)....Lennox who was a huge puncher could not take him off his feet...

    Vitaly is skilled...I believe he may have the highest KO% in the sport among champions i know he is over 90%......

    He can box...he will be ugly if need be...he has no problem with fighting close nor waiting for the big shot to land......

    I don't give a shit if you have seen Hayes fights 200 times and reenacted them in your backyard while drinking beer with your buddies...fact is

    Unless Vitaly Klitschko goes in with 2 broke arms....David Haye can not beat the man....
    Honestly, so you call me a fanboy but then say in the same amount of stupid text that there is no way that this man Vitali can lose right? and every boxing fan knows anything can happen in a ring; in a heavyweight fight a fight can change in one punch but not when Vitali Klitscho is involved is that what your saying? and you accuse me of being a 'fanboy' you just made one of the most rediculous posts I have seen and I don't really feel like communicating with you any more as I am wasting my time.

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    Default Re: < David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post

    Oh please. I'm a grown man I'm not a 'fanboy' nor do I follow internet lingo; the purpose of me identifying that I have the David Haye box set was to let you know I have seen every single fight I have many other Box sets also not all of fighters I am a fan of.

    Now having watched every fight boxers like Mormeck and Fragomeni (I'm not saying they are better than the Klitscho brothers) had a good enough amount of respect from Haye to ensure he sticks to his game plan until the knockout! My point was just because Haye didn't display that amount of respect here in one fight does not show his inability to stick to a game plan or be calm etc.

    You have made an assessment of athletic ability based upon how many fights? where as I have made my assessment based on a career.

    Firstoff "Fanboy" is not just internet lingo...There are biased announcers that exibit the same thing at times.....

    If you actually believe that I have only seen one of Hayes fights and judge him on that alone then you just add to the Fanboy mentality IMO you are approaching your opinion of Haye with.....

    If you actually read everything I said about Haye you would see I never said he always fought like that I used the fight with Barrett as a point on how he can not act if he ever expects to succeed in the HW division and if he is getting overzealous with a guy like Barrett and allowing a guy like Barrett to make him fight that erratic then what will he do when a genuine hard hitting mega HW is in there tapping him...

    Fighters like many fans do not seem to realize the power difference between the CW division even the hardest of bangers and that of a 6'5" or 6'6" 245lb HW...or even one at 6'2" and 225lbs...whatis considered a light hitter in the HW ranks can be a power puncher in the CW division....

    A fighter taste power he is not used to he can lose control...very easily....add that power coming from a man with skill and control that makes it even more dangerous....

    Both klitschkos have that power..they hit hard for even heavyweights...Vitaly is especially brutal when he wants to be...He can also take the punches of the divisions biggest hitters and walk through them....Peter could not phase him..(Regardless of peoples opp of his chin or skill set the man can hit hard)....Lennox who was a huge puncher could not take him off his feet...

    Vitaly is skilled...I believe he may have the highest KO% in the sport among champions i know he is over 90%......

    He can box...he will be ugly if need be...he has no problem with fighting close nor waiting for the big shot to land......

    I don't give a shit if you have seen Hayes fights 200 times and reenacted them in your backyard while drinking beer with your buddies...fact is

    Unless Vitaly Klitschko goes in with 2 broke arms....David Haye can not beat the man....
    Honestly, so you call me a fanboy but then say in the same amount of stupid text that there is no way that this man Vitali can lose right? and every boxing fan knows anything can happen in a ring; in a heavyweight fight a fight can change in one punch but not when Vitali Klitscho is involved is that what your saying? and you accuse me of being a 'fanboy' you just made one of the most rediculous posts I have seen and I don't really feel like communicating with you any more as I am wasting my time.

    Your kidding me right?...You are going to pout now because I believe in no uncertain terms could David Haye defeat Vitaly Klitschko....

    Lennox Lewis could not put Vitaly down...Are you having us to believe that Haye is even 20% the fighter Lennox was at HW?......I made plenty of reasons why Haye can not beat Vitaly...Have you come up with one on why he can?...No you haven't......So it goes to show again your "Fanboy" mentality because you can not debate it...Sure anything can happen in a HW boxing ring but fact is if the two are healthy and met I see no way Haye can beat him...Lets weight it up

    Speed--Haye...Though Vitaly is not exactly a turtle

    Power--Vitaly

    Chin--Vitaly

    Size--Vitaly

    Reach--Vitaly

    Strength--Vitaly

    Boxing ability--Vitaly

    So please show me where I am wrong....Funny how not one other poster agrees with you on Haye having a chance against Vitaly....
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    Default Re: < David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post


    Firstoff "Fanboy" is not just internet lingo...There are biased announcers that exibit the same thing at times.....

    If you actually believe that I have only seen one of Hayes fights and judge him on that alone then you just add to the Fanboy mentality IMO you are approaching your opinion of Haye with.....

    If you actually read everything I said about Haye you would see I never said he always fought like that I used the fight with Barrett as a point on how he can not act if he ever expects to succeed in the HW division and if he is getting overzealous with a guy like Barrett and allowing a guy like Barrett to make him fight that erratic then what will he do when a genuine hard hitting mega HW is in there tapping him...

    Fighters like many fans do not seem to realize the power difference between the CW division even the hardest of bangers and that of a 6'5" or 6'6" 245lb HW...or even one at 6'2" and 225lbs...whatis considered a light hitter in the HW ranks can be a power puncher in the CW division....

    A fighter taste power he is not used to he can lose control...very easily....add that power coming from a man with skill and control that makes it even more dangerous....

    Both klitschkos have that power..they hit hard for even heavyweights...Vitaly is especially brutal when he wants to be...He can also take the punches of the divisions biggest hitters and walk through them....Peter could not phase him..(Regardless of peoples opp of his chin or skill set the man can hit hard)....Lennox who was a huge puncher could not take him off his feet...

    Vitaly is skilled...I believe he may have the highest KO% in the sport among champions i know he is over 90%......

    He can box...he will be ugly if need be...he has no problem with fighting close nor waiting for the big shot to land......

    I don't give a shit if you have seen Hayes fights 200 times and reenacted them in your backyard while drinking beer with your buddies...fact is

    Unless Vitaly Klitschko goes in with 2 broke arms....David Haye can not beat the man....
    Honestly, so you call me a fanboy but then say in the same amount of stupid text that there is no way that this man Vitali can lose right? and every boxing fan knows anything can happen in a ring; in a heavyweight fight a fight can change in one punch but not when Vitali Klitscho is involved is that what your saying? and you accuse me of being a 'fanboy' you just made one of the most rediculous posts I have seen and I don't really feel like communicating with you any more as I am wasting my time.

    Your kidding me right?...You are going to pout now because I believe in no uncertain terms could David Haye defeat Vitaly Klitschko....

    Lennox Lewis could not put Vitaly down...Are you having us to believe that Haye is even 20% the fighter Lennox was at HW?......I made plenty of reasons why Haye can not beat Vitaly...Have you come up with one on why he can?...No you haven't......So it goes to show again your "Fanboy" mentality because you can not debate it...Sure anything can happen in a HW boxing ring but fact is if the two are healthy and met I see no way Haye can beat him...Lets weight it up

    Speed--Haye...Though Vitaly is not exactly a turtle

    Power--Vitaly

    Chin--Vitaly

    Size--Vitaly

    Reach--Vitaly

    Strength--Vitaly

    Boxing ability--Vitaly

    So please show me where I am wrong....Funny how not one other poster agrees with you on Haye having a chance against Vitaly....
    I agree with you.

    haye has no chance against Vitali imo.

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