Calzaghe ducked the best?

[Trainer Monkey]

Yep, as obvious as Pavlik's flu symptoms.

Pavlik got taken to school,Kessler couldnt throw the hand,a wee bit different
I can see it now,a boxer saying,"You know two hands are overrated"

TM.. you are nuts, son.

Here's the punchstats.

Kessler
Landed/Thrown
Total Punches
173 / 585
Jabs
52 / 326
Power Punches
121 / 259

What hand was it Kessler could NOT throw?

He threw a ton of left hooks,he pulled up on his right hooks,Ive got it on tape and watched it plenty,he was pulling his right the entire time

[Trainer Monkey]

And even then Kessler's management boned it,they should have put a rematch clause in there,they more or less bent over and spread for Warren.
Location,pay,and a rematch clause,they pulled off none of the above.
I know they were feeling confident in their boy,but jeez,you should have gotten one of them,they got none

[Fenster]

And even then Kessler's management boned it,they should have put a rematch clause in there,they more or less bent over and spread for Warren.
Location,pay,and a rematch clause,they pulled off none of the above.
I know they were feeling confident in their boy,but jeez,you should have gotten one of them,they got none

What does that have to do with Calzaghe? You are now (without realising it) highlighting Warrens negotiating skills.

And Kessler was "pulling" his right hand the entire fight? I doubt you've even seen the fight ONCE

[Trainer Monkey]

And even then Kessler's management boned it,they should have put a rematch clause in there,they more or less bent over and spread for Warren.
Location,pay,and a rematch clause,they pulled off none of the above.
I know they were feeling confident in their boy,but jeez,you should have gotten one of them,they got none

What does that have to do with Calzaghe? You are now (without realising it) highlighting Warrens negotiating skills.

And Kessler was "pulling" his right hand the entire fight? I doubt you've even seen the fight ONCE

Own it, he was pulling up and any moron can see that,Id love to see a rematch

[Fenster]

And even then Kessler's management boned it,they should have put a rematch clause in there,they more or less bent over and spread for Warren.
Location,pay,and a rematch clause,they pulled off none of the above.
I know they were feeling confident in their boy,but jeez,you should have gotten one of them,they got none

What does that have to do with Calzaghe? You are now (without realising it) highlighting Warrens negotiating skills.

And Kessler was "pulling" his right hand the entire fight? I doubt you've even seen the fight ONCE

Own it, he was pulling up and any moron can see that,Id love to see a rematch

Who do you think won the fight?

[Trainer Monkey]

What does that have to do with Calzaghe? You are now (without realising it) highlighting Warrens negotiating skills.

And Kessler was "pulling" his right hand the entire fight? I doubt you've even seen the fight ONCE

Own it, he was pulling up and any moron can see that,Id love to see a rematch

Who do you think won the fight?

Oh I definitely think Joe out pointed him,thats what makes a rematch so enticing,Kessler was obviously hurt,and survived,and lets face it,all he was doing was trying to survive.
Its one of the most interesting fights available to Joe right now.Its one of 3, Dawson Froch or a rematch with Kessler.
Hopkins isnt interesting,maybe Bernard wins this time,it could have gone either way,but its going to be the same fight.
Kessler is still an unkown.
I want to see the fight with Kessler healthy,maybe Joe whips him,but I want to see the both of them healthy in there. We havent seen that,I want to.

[Fenster]

Own it, he was pulling up and any moron can see that,Id love to see a rematch

Who do you think won the fight?

Oh I definitely think Joe out pointed him,thats what makes a rematch so enticing,Kessler was obviously hurt,and survived,and lets face it,all he was doing was trying to survive.
Its one of the most interesting fights available to Joe right now.Its one of 3, Dawson Froch or a rematch with Kessler.
Hopkins isnt interesting,maybe Bernard wins this time,it could have gone either way,but its going to be the same fight.
Kessler is still an unkown.
I want to see the fight with Kessler healthy,maybe Joe whips him,but I want to see the both of them healthy in there. We havent seen that,I want to.

Good. Finally you've seen what EVERYONE else (the morons) did on the night. How many viewings did it take for you to realise Joe won?

Originally YOU didn't know who won. Look...

so do you actually think Kessler won

I honestly dont know,Kessler lands the bombs,Joe throws more punches.
Its an I dont know fight
It looks like Joes mainly hitting arms and hips,but Kessler isnt doing the damage he needs to do,he's landing but Joe is still there the entire time
What Im saying is,would it be a totally different fight if a one handed Kessler didnt have to go for a knockout?
You and everyone else knows the only way he was walking out of Cardiff with a win was putting Joe down
Would it be different if it was in Vegas?
And he had both hands?

[Mikkel_K]

And even then Kessler's management boned it,they should have put a rematch clause in there,they more or less bent over and spread for Warren.
Location,pay,and a rematch clause,they pulled off none of the above.
I know they were feeling confident in their boy,but jeez,you should have gotten one of them,they got none

There is no way Kessler was in a position to demand a rematch. They gave up the location, but that only meant more money. To say they gave up pay is ridiculous - Kessler got more money out of that fight than Pavlik or Hopkins got for their fight - combined.

I dont think the hand mattered much. I, for one, didnt see too many problems with it. Maybe it hurt his preparations a bit (we'll never know), but he choose to go on with the fight, and the minute he stepped into the ring he lost any right to use it as an excuse. Same with Pavlik.

However, even if there was a difference in class in Cardiff, I wouldnt completely rule out Kessler's chances in a rematch. First of all, Calzaghe is likely to get worse. Second, Kessler fought the wrong fight from round 5 or so, making it a bit to easy for Calzaghe (I dont think he would have won using plan A anyway, especially not in Wales, but he would have made it close). Keep in mind also that before that fight Kessler had never lost a round with all three judges, and probably lost less than a handful of rounds altogether in his career. So when he needed to be clutch the most, it was a whole new experiecence for him and his corner. If he can stay with his gameplan in a place where the cards arent stacked against him, Kessler could have a chance.

But all of this doesnt matter, as it would make no sense for Calzaghe to fight him anyway.