a question for my Saddo friends.

[Dark Lord Al]

Gavin Reese I suppose, then back to Naz.

yea Rees is one of them , but he wasnt even world class , but yea we can give him that.

and Naz fought a Warren fighter in Robinson. i was wondering if many had won a none vacant title , and not won againest an already Warren fighter.
and we are talking FIRST title.

[Memphis]

Ahhh did see the already Warren fighters bit, so thats both Reese and Naz out then

[Dark Lord Al]

Ahhh did see the already Warren fighters bit, so thats both Reese and Naz out then

i can half accept Rees because M'baye hadnt been promoted by Warren for that long.

[Memphis]

Nah fuck it, scratch em both. M'Baye was employed to get at Hatton, then when that went tits up he was kept on to sacrifice his title to Amir

[Dark Lord Al]

Nah fuck it, scratch em both. M'Baye was employed to get at Hatton, then when that went tits up he was kept on to sacrifice his title to Amir

OK NO NEED TO CONVINCE ME

[Fenster]

Why are you classing the WBU as a title?

Hatton beat Kostya for the IBF
Bruno beat McCall for the WBC

[Tysonbruno]

Terry Marsh for the IBF he was a Warren fighter

[Dark Lord Al]

Terry Marsh for the IBF he was a Warren fighter

Yes he beat Joe Manley , funny how he wasnt happy with Warren as a promoter lol

Marsh and Bruno so far

[Tysonbruno]

Terry Marsh for the IBF he was a Warren fighter

Yes he beat Joe Manley , funny how he wasnt happy with Warren as a promoter lol

Marsh and Bruno so far

Shame Marsh didn't take full advantage of his shot at Warren

[Dark Lord Al]

Why are you classing the WBU as a title?

Hatton beat Kostya for the IBF
Bruno beat McCall for the WBC

Yea Bruno was Warren promoted at the time he beat McCall ,
but although i dont class the WBU as a real world title , i think Warren was peddling Hatton as World champ of the WBU , so im not counting Hatton .

so far we have Bruno.

[Fenster]

Why are you classing the WBU as a title?

Hatton beat Kostya for the IBF
Bruno beat McCall for the WBC

Yea Bruno was Warren promoted at the time he beat McCall ,
but although i dont class the WBU as a real world title , i think Warren was peddling Hatton as World champ of the WBU , so im not counting Hatton .

so far we have Bruno.

I don't know ONE proper boxing fan (and doesn't mean hardcore/anorak types like on here) that ever regarded Hatton as WORLD champion because of that WBU crap.

Warren is a promoter. If a poxy WBU belt helps SELL his shows he's gonna use it. Who wouldn't?

[Bomp]

It happens a lot, titles are vacated rather than fight mandatories. Warren obviously has a lot of leverage with the WBO and chose fights which would progress his fighters to no.1, he can't really have foreseen that Collins and Nelson would retire.

Hennesey seems to prefer the WBC route, and Witter and Froch (if he wins) will win vacated titles.

Cotto, Margarito, Jones Jr, Tarver, Hopkins, JMM, Judah are just some high profile boxers who also had first titles which were vacant. (OK, I went on Boxrec and of about 20 or so bigish names I searched just under half were in this vacated group)