Someone explain this to me (Floyd/Hatton weight issue)

[gudnite vienna]

it was just an excuse.. PBF is prob a natural at 140 at this stage in his life.. It was a fair fight and Ricky lost, and im a hatton fan..

[leftylee]

I ain't gonna even get involved in this thread

[CFH]

it was just an excuse.. PBF is prob a natural at 140 at this stage in his life.. It was a fair fight and Ricky lost, and im a hatton fan..

Yup. I've yet to hear anyone explain in a compelling manner why the weight made any difference.

[kingfrnk]

there is NO ISSUE floyd is just a better boxer period. and if he goes back to 140 he will still beat hatton. the main excuse i hear is that the ref didnt let Ricky fight his fight thats bullshit PBF didnt let Ricky fight his fight. no matter where its at PBF will always come out in top.

[gudnite vienna]

im afraid to say that how ever ricky would of approached this fight he was gettin beat, Mayweather is better in every department..

Saying that if a re-match does come off between these two in say 2010 at wembley i will be there without doubt, because you just never do know in boxing and ricky could just pull a major unset!!!

[Beanflicker]

it was just an excuse.. PBF is prob a natural at 140 at this stage in his life.. It was a fair fight and Ricky lost, and im a hatton fan..

Yup. I've yet to hear anyone explain in a compelling manner why the weight made any difference.

I know, its weird. Its been said SO MANY TIMES but no one has ever explained it. I even heard people use it BEFORE the fight even happened!

[gudnite vienna]

Has leftylee not got any idea why this weight issue has been mentioned about the fight..

[leggy]

im a hatton fan and he would never could never beat mayweather

[bambamdaddio]

OK bud, here goes, for starters Floyd WILL always beat Hatton, but would have a tougher time at lite welter why ... its dead simple,

Because the mental attitude Hatton develops at lite welter is a million miles away from the one he has at welter.....

Why?

Because Hatton has to train like a b*****d to get down to that weight, & everything has to be spot on A plus or he cant make the weight ... no odd pints of guiness or meat pies...he trains to such an extent that he becomes sharper and less sluggish, he becomes lean as fk, strong mean & hard because of what he has had to go thru....at lite welter he cant cut one corner ... not one ...but he can at welter & has in the past ...

He would still get beat by Floyd at this weight ... but dont make the mistake of thinking this would be exactly the same because it wouldnt, yes he would still prob lose, but you sure as hell would see a different fight from Hatton at LW....

& for the record Im a massive fan of both & picked Hatton to get stopped after 8 rounds in there previous dust up at Welter...

[CFH]

OK bud, here goes, for starters Floyd WILL always beat Hatton, but would have a tougher time at lite welter why ... its dead simple,

Because the mental attitude Hatton develops at lite welter is a million miles away from the one he has at welter.....

Why?

Because Hatton has to train like a b*****d to get down to that weight, & everything has to be spot on A plus or he cant make the weight ... no odd pints of guiness or meat pies...he trains to such an extent that he becomes sharper and less sluggish, he becomes lean as fk, strong mean & hard because of what he has had to go thru....at lite welter he cant cut one corner ... not one ...but he can at welter & has in the past ...

He would still get beat by Floyd at this weight ... but dont make the mistake of thinking this would be exactly the same because it wouldnt, yes he would still prob lose, but you sure as hell would see a different fight from Hatton at LW....

Sorry, but that's a bullshit excuse and it doesn't make any sense. The problem then, according to you, is his dedication, not the weight. If he would've been so much better at 140, why not weigh in at 140 then?

If you can't be properly motivated to train to the maximum extent of your ability when you are facing the best boxer in the world, then you a are a fucking joke.

You would see the exact same fight from Hatton at 140.

[CGM]

OK bud, here goes, for starters Floyd WILL always beat Hatton, but would have a tougher time at lite welter why ... its dead simple,

Because the mental attitude Hatton develops at lite welter is a million miles away from the one he has at welter.....

Why?

Because Hatton has to train like a b*****d to get down to that weight, & everything has to be spot on A plus or he cant make the weight ... no odd pints of guiness or meat pies...he trains to such an extent that he becomes sharper and less sluggish, he becomes lean as fk, strong mean & hard because of what he has had to go thru....at lite welter he cant cut one corner ... not one ...but he can at welter & has in the past ...

He would still get beat by Floyd at this weight ... but dont make the mistake of thinking this would be exactly the same because it wouldnt, yes he would still prob lose, but you sure as hell would see a different fight from Hatton at LW....

& for the record Im a massive fan of both & picked Hatton to get stopped after 8 rounds in there previous dust up at Welter...

OK, so Hatton is a little sharper at JWW. From what I have seen, so is Mayweather.

[Mark TKO]

I agree and I am also a Hatton fan

If Ricky wants to be a great he has to take these fights - he was soundly beaten. Ok the ref did him no favours but he was outclassed simple as that.

If they fought at 140 it may be a closer fight but I still see same outcome - but would be there at Wembley if it came off

He was kayoed convincingly. Judah and Boldomir went distance . Didn't Corley go distance too ? can't remember weight for that one

[Beanflicker]

OK bud, here goes, for starters Floyd WILL always beat Hatton, but would have a tougher time at lite welter why ... its dead simple,

Because the mental attitude Hatton develops at lite welter is a million miles away from the one he has at welter.....

Why?

Because Hatton has to train like a b*****d to get down to that weight, & everything has to be spot on A plus or he cant make the weight ... no odd pints of guiness or meat pies...he trains to such an extent that he becomes sharper and less sluggish, he becomes lean as fk, strong mean & hard because of what he has had to go thru....at lite welter he cant cut one corner ... not one ...but he can at welter & has in the past ...

He would still get beat by Floyd at this weight ... but dont make the mistake of thinking this would be exactly the same because it wouldnt, yes he would still prob lose, but you sure as hell would see a different fight from Hatton at LW....

& for the record Im a massive fan of both & picked Hatton to get stopped after 8 rounds in there previous dust up at Welter...

I don't agree with that, but I will rep you for posting a reasonable explanation

[Althugz]

OK bud, here goes, for starters Floyd WILL always beat Hatton, but would have a tougher time at lite welter why ... its dead simple,

Because the mental attitude Hatton develops at lite welter is a million miles away from the one he has at welter.....

Why?

Because Hatton has to train like a b*****d to get down to that weight, & everything has to be spot on A plus or he cant make the weight ... no odd pints of guiness or meat pies...he trains to such an extent that he becomes sharper and less sluggish, he becomes lean as fk, strong mean & hard because of what he has had to go thru....at lite welter he cant cut one corner ... not one ...but he can at welter & has in the past ...

He would still get beat by Floyd at this weight ... but dont make the mistake of thinking this would be exactly the same because it wouldnt, yes he would still prob lose, but you sure as hell would see a different fight from Hatton at LW....

& for the record Im a massive fan of both & picked Hatton to get stopped after 8 rounds in there previous dust up at Welter...

I've read all your responses since this post and I still can't understand how if you know you're fighting the best pound for pound fighter in the world that the weight is going to effect your training and dedication.

If you can't cut out the meat pies and the guiness for a fight like this then he shouldn't have took the fight.

If he didn't think he would be able to beat Floyd at 147 then he shouldn't have took the fight (we all know that both he and Billy Graham said that Floyd looked small compared to Ricky before the fight and that he would be in trouble because of it).

So I find it funny that after Ricky and Billy Graham both squashed the weight arguement before the fight even begun, people now turn 180 and say it was 'because of the weight, Ricky wasn't hungry enough'.

Come on now! Ricky even said himself that he was training as though he was fighting for a light welterweight contest so that arguement is complete rubbish imo and doesn't wash with me. Good effort though.

[leftylee]

Has leftylee not got any idea why this weight issue has been mentioned about the fight..

If you want my opinion I'll send you a PM.

I don't like talking about Hatton in debates on here as things can get real heated at times. Then the insults start flying "Your just a fucking hater" "shutup groupie" etc. No need for it whatsoever.