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    Sure Oscar's A-team costs a lot, but as I see it, it practically pays for itself giving people additional confidence in him, which probably translate into bigger receipts.

    Training at Big Bear, chopping wood, and those guys that he has with him is nice and all, but how much of it is truly necessary? How much of it is just creating an image for himself so that more people will buy into this spectacle? Would you be any more surprised if you saw Delahoya chasing chickens in the next 24/7?

    Realistically Delahoya just needs train hard to ensure that he's half-way decent condition and makes the weight. Everything else is just smiles for the camera.

    Now obviously he has a good left hook, he has the size, and he showed against Mayweather that he's not blown away with fast hands. The only question on my mind is how's he going to handle a quick little guy like Pac who has the workrate that could give him problems. In sparring didn't he have trouble with smaller fighters that could match his workrate, take Valero and Ortiz for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post
    Sure Oscar's A-team costs a lot, but as I see it, it practically pays for itself giving people additional confidence in him, which probably translate into bigger receipts.

    Training at Big Bear, chopping wood, and those guys that he has with him is nice and all, but how much of it is truly necessary? How much of it is just creating an image for himself so that more people will buy into this spectacle? Would you be any more surprised if you saw Delahoya chasing chickens in the next 24/7?

    Realistically Delahoya just needs train hard to ensure that he's half-way decent condition and makes the weight. Everything else is just smiles for the camera.

    Now obviously he has a good left hook, he has the size, and he showed against Mayweather that he's not blown away with fast hands. The only question on my mind is how's he going to handle a quick little guy like Pac who has the workrate that could give him problems. In sparring didn't he have trouble with smaller fighters that could match his workrate, take Valero and Ortiz for instance.
    I think its really necessary at this point,he isnt fighting just fighting Pac anymore,he's also fighting time.
    I only wished he'd showed this lock down mode earlier in his career. Lets face it,DLH spent most of his career taking his talent for granted,who knows what he could have been if he had trained for every fight this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post
    Sure Oscar's A-team costs a lot, but as I see it, it practically pays for itself giving people additional confidence in him, which probably translate into bigger receipts.

    Training at Big Bear, chopping wood, and those guys that he has with him is nice and all, but how much of it is truly necessary? How much of it is just creating an image for himself so that more people will buy into this spectacle? Would you be any more surprised if you saw Delahoya chasing chickens in the next 24/7?

    Realistically Delahoya just needs train hard to ensure that he's half-way decent condition and makes the weight. Everything else is just smiles for the camera.

    Now obviously he has a good left hook, he has the size, and he showed against Mayweather that he's not blown away with fast hands. The only question on my mind is how's he going to handle a quick little guy like Pac who has the workrate that could give him problems. In sparring didn't he have trouble with smaller fighters that could match his workrate, take Valero and Ortiz for instance.
    I think its really necessary at this point,he isnt fighting just fighting Pac anymore,he's also fighting time.
    I only wished he'd showed this lock down mode earlier in his career. Lets face it,DLH spent most of his career taking his talent for granted,who knows what he could have been if he had trained for every fight this way?
    It'd surely have been a different story if had Oscar stuck it out with his old trainer Rivero, instead hooking up with every big name trainer. Combine that with hard work and Delahoya would have been a wrecking machine instead of a potential wreck waiting to happen.

    I can see your point of view now, he is definately working his goldenboy ass off, and although getting his experts is may in part be a publicity move, it is also a smart move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post
    Sure Oscar's A-team costs a lot, but as I see it, it practically pays for itself giving people additional confidence in him, which probably translate into bigger receipts.

    Training at Big Bear, chopping wood, and those guys that he has with him is nice and all, but how much of it is truly necessary? How much of it is just creating an image for himself so that more people will buy into this spectacle? Would you be any more surprised if you saw Delahoya chasing chickens in the next 24/7?

    Realistically Delahoya just needs train hard to ensure that he's half-way decent condition and makes the weight. Everything else is just smiles for the camera.

    Now obviously he has a good left hook, he has the size, and he showed against Mayweather that he's not blown away with fast hands. The only question on my mind is how's he going to handle a quick little guy like Pac who has the workrate that could give him problems. In sparring didn't he have trouble with smaller fighters that could match his workrate, take Valero and Ortiz for instance.
    I think its really necessary at this point,he isnt fighting just fighting Pac anymore,he's also fighting time.
    I only wished he'd showed this lock down mode earlier in his career. Lets face it,DLH spent most of his career taking his talent for granted,who knows what he could have been if he had trained for every fight this way?
    It'd surely have been a different story if had Oscar stuck it out with his old trainer Rivero, instead hooking up with every big name trainer. Combine that with hard work and Delahoya would have been a wrecking machine instead of a potential wreck waiting to happen.

    I can see your point of view now, he is definately working his goldenboy ass off, and although getting his experts is may in part be a publicity move, it is also a smart move.
    Its honestly the first time I can see him treating a fight like its do or die time. Im used to Oscar constantly flashing those pearly whites and hoping to get by on raw talent.
    Maybe its Dundee and Nacho getting under his skin,maybe its that he can see the end of his road ahead,but for the first time in his career,he's making me feel like he's taking this fight very seriously.
    My biggest question,is it just too late

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    I think its really necessary at this point,he isnt fighting just fighting Pac anymore,he's also fighting time.
    I only wished he'd showed this lock down mode earlier in his career. Lets face it,DLH spent most of his career taking his talent for granted,who knows what he could have been if he had trained for every fight this way?
    It'd surely have been a different story if had Oscar stuck it out with his old trainer Rivero, instead hooking up with every big name trainer. Combine that with hard work and Delahoya would have been a wrecking machine instead of a potential wreck waiting to happen.

    I can see your point of view now, he is definately working his goldenboy ass off, and although getting his experts is may in part be a publicity move, it is also a smart move.
    Its honestly the first time I can see him treating a fight like its do or die time. Im used to Oscar constantly flashing those pearly whites and hoping to get by on raw talent.
    Maybe its Dundee and Nacho getting under his skin,maybe its that he can see the end of his road ahead,but for the first time in his career,he's making me feel like he's taking this fight very seriously.
    My biggest question,is it just too late
    It very well could be too late. Hard to say. One thing i have to say...i like Nacho as a trainer. I think this is the best trainer he has had in years. For all of his flash, i was never a Mayweather Snr. fan and i am not impressed by Roach either. Will Nacho at this stage of his career make a difference...we shall see. Who knows...Oscar might go right back to Mayweather after this fight. But Nacho has a great combination of old school work ethic, smart boxing mind, and great reputation. As for this fight itself. Oscar has the size and skill advantage. My question is...will he use that jab and overall skill early to set Pac up for those big left hooks. Or will he try and unload like crazy like he did for most the Mayweather fight. Oscar should win this fight. If Pac pulls off the huge upset...my hats off to him. But if Oscar is focused, in shape, and fights smart...he has no business losing this fight (despite his age and Pac's big heart and great speed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post

    It'd surely have been a different story if had Oscar stuck it out with his old trainer Rivero, instead hooking up with every big name trainer. Combine that with hard work and Delahoya would have been a wrecking machine instead of a potential wreck waiting to happen.

    I can see your point of view now, he is definately working his goldenboy ass off, and although getting his experts is may in part be a publicity move, it is also a smart move.
    Its honestly the first time I can see him treating a fight like its do or die time. Im used to Oscar constantly flashing those pearly whites and hoping to get by on raw talent.
    Maybe its Dundee and Nacho getting under his skin,maybe its that he can see the end of his road ahead,but for the first time in his career,he's making me feel like he's taking this fight very seriously.
    My biggest question,is it just too late
    It very well could be too late. Hard to say. One thing i have to say...i like Nacho as a trainer. I think this is the best trainer he has had in years. For all of his flash, i was never a Mayweather Snr. fan and i am not impressed by Roach either. Will Nacho at this stage of his career make a difference...we shall see. Who knows...Oscar might go right back to Mayweather after this fight. But Nacho has a great combination of old school work ethic, smart boxing mind, and great reputation. As for this fight itself. Oscar has the size and skill advantage. My question is...will he use that jab and overall skill early to set Pac up for those big left hooks. Or will he try and unload like crazy like he did for most the Mayweather fight. Oscar should win this fight. If Pac pulls off the huge upset...my hats off to him. But if Oscar is focused, in shape, and fights smart...he has no business losing this fight (despite his age and Pac's big heart and great speed).
    If Manny whups him,absolutely all credit where its due,and good on the PacMan,I just got a niggling of a suspicion that Oscar isnt blowing this one off for a change

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post

    It'd surely have been a different story if had Oscar stuck it out with his old trainer Rivero, instead hooking up with every big name trainer. Combine that with hard work and Delahoya would have been a wrecking machine instead of a potential wreck waiting to happen.

    I can see your point of view now, he is definately working his goldenboy ass off, and although getting his experts is may in part be a publicity move, it is also a smart move.
    Its honestly the first time I can see him treating a fight like its do or die time. Im used to Oscar constantly flashing those pearly whites and hoping to get by on raw talent.
    Maybe its Dundee and Nacho getting under his skin,maybe its that he can see the end of his road ahead,but for the first time in his career,he's making me feel like he's taking this fight very seriously.
    My biggest question,is it just too late
    It very well could be too late. Hard to say. One thing i have to say...i like Nacho as a trainer. I think this is the best trainer he has had in years. For all of his flash, i was never a Mayweather Snr. fan and i am not impressed by Roach either. Will Nacho at this stage of his career make a difference...we shall see. Who knows...Oscar might go right back to Mayweather after this fight. But Nacho has a great combination of old school work ethic, smart boxing mind, and great reputation. As for this fight itself. Oscar has the size and skill advantage. My question is...will he use that jab and overall skill early to set Pac up for those big left hooks. Or will he try and unload like crazy like he did for most the Mayweather fight. Oscar should win this fight. If Pac pulls off the huge upset...my hats off to him. But if Oscar is focused, in shape, and fights smart...he has no business losing this fight (despite his age and Pac's big heart and great speed).
    If you were going to go old school,you couldnt go more old school then bringing in Nacho and Dundee. I almost choked when I heard he'd brought in Dundee. And you can tell these guys are consummate pros,because all the reports out of Oscars camp is everything is going smoothly. If you tried to have McGirt and Roach in the same camp, they wouldnt be able to move for stepping on each others toes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Its honestly the first time I can see him treating a fight like its do or die time. Im used to Oscar constantly flashing those pearly whites and hoping to get by on raw talent.
    Maybe its Dundee and Nacho getting under his skin,maybe its that he can see the end of his road ahead,but for the first time in his career,he's making me feel like he's taking this fight very seriously.
    My biggest question,is it just too late
    It's more likely just a special circumstance for this fight, than it is defining moment in his career. Delahoya is still giving the same talk as he did with Vargas, Mayorga, Mayweather, ad nauseum, but at least things are a little different now.

    It's nice to know that Delahoya's heart is in it, but like any time of anticipation, we'll have to see how it all turns out.
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