Harry Greb vs Joe Calzaghe

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How the hell can ANYONE determine how good/great a boxer whom they've never seen fight is?

Hey, there's one you can ask half the people who call SRR the greatest of all time.

SRR has a LOT of footage available on him. I'd be surprised if any big boxing fans have never seen at least one of his fights.

True enough. But based on what I read here, I wouldn't have thought one or two fights was enough to form an opinion. at least to judge him as the best. And it is my understanding that there is precious little of him available from his time at welterweight, which is what many people base their judgement on. But no big deal.

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True enough. But based on what I read here, I wouldn't have thought one or two fights was enough to form an opinion. at least to judge him as the best. And it is my understanding that there is precious little of him available from his time at welterweight, which is what many people base their judgement on. But no big deal.

Yeah I do see your point though. Thats why I have no "all time greatest" list. Especially with the years from 1900-1950, 1) we have very little footage to view the fighters and 2) they were shady times, fueled by racial predjudice and controlled by criminals. There were probably tons of guys who were as good or better than SRR, but never got a chance because they were black and could fight, or because they never had the connections or didn't want to play ball with the mob (Charley Burley could be a good example of this).

How the hell can I compare Floyd Mayweather, a guy who I have EVERY SINGLE ONE of his fights on DVD, to a guy like Stanley Ketchel, who I've only seen in one fight, where Jack Johnson knocked his teeth clean out of his mouth.