I have come to realize...

[El Kabong]

I dislike the entire idea of "reality tv" they are hybrid of 3 things which aren't that great to begin with #1 Reality, tv was invented to get us away from reality without the use of drugs/alcohol...reality tv should really be the NEWS (in the best case) #2 Game Shows...I suppose with the exception that you need talent to win on some game shows #3 Gossip and inane blabber about worthless people ie Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.


All I am saying is if this is what they plan on feeding the masses then bring back the lions! Is nobody with me

[CGM]

I suppose a lot of what constitutes reality tv is based on the premise that famous people are inherently more interesting in their day to day lives than "ordinary people". This is a fallacy. Most often you get famous movie stars away from the camera, or rock stars off the stage or out of the studio, and they're just as boring as we are.

Paris Hilton is a bit of an anomoly, a member of that new breed who are famous solely because of their famousness. No talent whatsoever. You wonder how they ever got famous. And their lives become inseparable from the concept of reality tv, because with it they'd be nothing.

Sometimes reality tv is rather funny. I thought the Osbournes was a hoot. Hulk Hogan and Gene Simmons reality tv are boring as hell.

Yeah a lot of reality tv exists because "we" like to see stars take a fall, e.g. Britney Spears.

American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

[El Kabong]

American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

Well think about it, the music being PUSHED on the people is pure shit and it's due to stuff like American Idol.

I'm sorry if I get worked up but whenever I think about what people may hate about America or Americans in general I look no further than MTV's "The Real World"....I hate THOSE Americans too and I am American.

[CGM]

American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

Well think about it, the music being PUSHED on the people is pure shit and it's due to stuff like American Idol.

I'm sorry if I get worked up but whenever I think about what people may hate about America or Americans in general I look no further than MTV's "The Real World"....I hate THOSE Americans too and I am American.

no need for Sorry bud, and I do see your point about the image of America abroad, but consider this...

I don't think what you see on American reality tv is any dumber than what you see on some of the Brit games shows where people totally debase themselves for a bit of cash. And it certainly can't be any worse than some of the Japanese stuff I've seen.

We Canadians of course are above all that nonsense.

[El Kabong]

I like Japanese Gameshows....at least have SKILL to win!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXLF6114Y0

[Kirkland Laing]

I can't watch any of that stuff. I don't want to know who the nation's best karaoke singer is or watch somebody getting their tits out to get in the papers.

[El Kabong]

I can't watch any of that stuff. I don't want to know who the nation's best karaoke singer is or watch somebody getting their tits out to get in the papers.

Well we finally find something to agree on...have some rep you ol' SOB

[RP33]

American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

Well think about it, the music being PUSHED on the people is pure shit and it's due to stuff like American Idol.

I'm sorry if I get worked up but whenever I think about what people may hate about America or Americans in general I look no further than MTV's "The Real World"....I hate THOSE Americans too and I am American.

i've only been saying all this for years now.. minus the being fed to the lions part.

90% of music on the radio is pure garbage.. talentless garbage.. The 10% that is good is the very very few bands that sneak through the cracks and have a good radio hit, and of course the classic music stations..

as far as TV goes, it's true, it's just completely terrible.. Paris Hilton's My BFF.. like, are you kidding? I enjoy watching movies on TV, i enjoy watching sports, i enjoy a certain few HBO shows, and the history channel/natgeo etc.. besides that it's just so sad to know that the majority of the channels is what our society is watching daily..

thing is, i don't even think the real world is THAT bad.. i mean, yes, it's based on getting viewers by causing as much drama as possible, but at least it's "real".. it's not scripted, i've had friends on the show.. i think there are a lot of worse shows, specifically on mtv, that are worse than the real world, that still get a ton of viewers.

[Wayne]

I dislike the entire idea of "reality tv" they are hybrid of 3 things which aren't that great to begin with #1 Reality, tv was invented to get us away from reality without the use of drugs/alcohol...reality tv should really be the NEWS (in the best case) #2 Game Shows...I suppose with the exception that you need talent to win on some game shows #3 Gossip and inane blabber about worthless people ie Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.


All I am saying is if this is what they plan on feeding the masses then bring back the lions! Is nobody with me

I'll admit I like SOME reality TV, but it really depends on how it is produced. I don't like anything on MTV they pass off as reality. Primarily because it's not geared to my age group. But also because it in no way shape or form resembles reality. Cops is reality (except for when the cop decides to get extra flexy when he brings down a baddy), Taxicab Confessions is reality, Intervention is hella reality. The only show I can really think of that is more like MTV is Scream Queens and it's for a very specific reason: it's more of a gameshow than reality. They are competing for a definite, real prize; a starring role in a hit movie franchise (Saw series). It's not trying to improve a group of crazy women (Charm School) or picking off fatties one by one (The Biggest Loser). Sure 'Loser' has a prize at the end, but the purpose of the show is to help these people lose weight. Why are they being eliminated then? Shouldn't they all stay on the show and the person who loses the most at the end win? If the 'Charm' girls need this help, why boot them? Because it's about something other than this alleged improvement they state. At least with 'Queens' we have a defined task and only one can win. It makes sense that they be elminated one by one. Who the hell cares who wants to be Paris Hilton's next best friend who she'll be dumping on sometime in the coming year? And the dating shows are the worst. My parents hate my girlfriend so much they set me up to go on a date with two other girls. No, in REALITY, my parents wouldn't allow my girlfriend in the house if she were an uber-bitch. And don't stick my whiny ass in a house with a bunch of whiny 20 somethings. I used to love 'Real World', hell, I wanted to be on the show, but now I would be terminally bored.

[Trainer Monkey]

I dislike the entire idea of "reality tv" they are hybrid of 3 things which aren't that great to begin with #1 Reality, tv was invented to get us away from reality without the use of drugs/alcohol...reality tv should really be the NEWS (in the best case) #2 Game Shows...I suppose with the exception that you need talent to win on some game shows #3 Gossip and inane blabber about worthless people ie Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.


All I am saying is if this is what they plan on feeding the masses then bring back the lions! Is nobody with me

I'll admit I like SOME reality TV, but it really depends on how it is produced. I don't like anything on MTV they pass off as reality. Primarily because it's not geared to my age group. But also because it in no way shape or form resembles reality. Cops is reality (except for when the cop decides to get extra flexy when he brings down a baddy), Taxicab Confessions is reality, Intervention is hella reality. The only show I can really think of that is more like MTV is Scream Queens and it's for a very specific reason: it's more of a gameshow than reality. They are competing for a definite, real prize; a starring role in a hit movie franchise (Saw series). It's not trying to improve a group of crazy women (Charm School) or picking off fatties one by one (The Biggest Loser). Sure 'Loser' has a prize at the end, but the purpose of the show is to help these people lose weight. Why are they being eliminated then? Shouldn't they all stay on the show and the person who loses the most at the end win? If the 'Charm' girls need this help, why boot them? Because it's about something other than this alleged improvement they state. At least with 'Queens' we have a defined task and only one can win. It makes sense that they be elminated one by one. Who the hell cares who wants to be Paris Hilton's next best friend who she'll be dumping on sometime in the coming year? And the dating shows are the worst. My parents hate my girlfriend so much they set me up to go on a date with two other girls. No, in REALITY, my parents wouldn't allow my girlfriend in the house if she were an uber-bitch. And don't stick my whiny ass in a house with a bunch of whiny 20 somethings. I used to love 'Real World', hell, I wanted to be on the show, but now I would be terminally bored.

As close as I get to reality TV, is Survivor Man, I used to watch Man Vs Wild, until it came out the whole thing was more or less canned,ruined it for me.

[Gandalf]

I dislike the entire idea of "reality tv" they are hybrid of 3 things which aren't that great to begin with #1 Reality, tv was invented to get us away from reality without the use of drugs/alcohol...reality tv should really be the NEWS (in the best case) #2 Game Shows...I suppose with the exception that you need talent to win on some game shows #3 Gossip and inane blabber about worthless people ie Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.


All I am saying is if this is what they plan on feeding the masses then bring back the lions! Is nobody with me

I'll admit I like SOME reality TV, but it really depends on how it is produced. I don't like anything on MTV they pass off as reality. Primarily because it's not geared to my age group. But also because it in no way shape or form resembles reality. Cops is reality (except for when the cop decides to get extra flexy when he brings down a baddy), Taxicab Confessions is reality, Intervention is hella reality. The only show I can really think of that is more like MTV is Scream Queens and it's for a very specific reason: it's more of a gameshow than reality. They are competing for a definite, real prize; a starring role in a hit movie franchise (Saw series). It's not trying to improve a group of crazy women (Charm School) or picking off fatties one by one (The Biggest Loser). Sure 'Loser' has a prize at the end, but the purpose of the show is to help these people lose weight. Why are they being eliminated then? Shouldn't they all stay on the show and the person who loses the most at the end win? If the 'Charm' girls need this help, why boot them? Because it's about something other than this alleged improvement they state. At least with 'Queens' we have a defined task and only one can win. It makes sense that they be elminated one by one. Who the hell cares who wants to be Paris Hilton's next best friend who she'll be dumping on sometime in the coming year? And the dating shows are the worst. My parents hate my girlfriend so much they set me up to go on a date with two other girls. No, in REALITY, my parents wouldn't allow my girlfriend in the house if she were an uber-bitch. And don't stick my whiny ass in a house with a bunch of whiny 20 somethings. I used to love 'Real World', hell, I wanted to be on the show, but now I would be terminally bored.

As close as I get to reality TV, is Survivor Man, I used to watch Man Vs Wild, until it came out the whole thing was more or less canned,ruined it for me.

The only reality TV I watch is the news. Those other reality shows I stay away from. I find nothing more tedious than watching stupid people with nothing to say. And putting them in bizarre locations is just futile too.

I would love it if we could put all of these people into a situation where their life depended on a single question though. And the minute they get the question wrong, their brains are blown out live or even prerecorded on television. Now that would be reality TV I might tune into.

Its all bollocks.

They have this show here that my wife watches and its basically famous people sharing a house and the cameras observe them eating yoghurt. I refuse to watch it and typically resort to posting on the internet!

[Trainer Monkey]

I'll admit I like SOME reality TV, but it really depends on how it is produced. I don't like anything on MTV they pass off as reality. Primarily because it's not geared to my age group. But also because it in no way shape or form resembles reality. Cops is reality (except for when the cop decides to get extra flexy when he brings down a baddy), Taxicab Confessions is reality, Intervention is hella reality. The only show I can really think of that is more like MTV is Scream Queens and it's for a very specific reason: it's more of a gameshow than reality. They are competing for a definite, real prize; a starring role in a hit movie franchise (Saw series). It's not trying to improve a group of crazy women (Charm School) or picking off fatties one by one (The Biggest Loser). Sure 'Loser' has a prize at the end, but the purpose of the show is to help these people lose weight. Why are they being eliminated then? Shouldn't they all stay on the show and the person who loses the most at the end win? If the 'Charm' girls need this help, why boot them? Because it's about something other than this alleged improvement they state. At least with 'Queens' we have a defined task and only one can win. It makes sense that they be elminated one by one. Who the hell cares who wants to be Paris Hilton's next best friend who she'll be dumping on sometime in the coming year? And the dating shows are the worst. My parents hate my girlfriend so much they set me up to go on a date with two other girls. No, in REALITY, my parents wouldn't allow my girlfriend in the house if she were an uber-bitch. And don't stick my whiny ass in a house with a bunch of whiny 20 somethings. I used to love 'Real World', hell, I wanted to be on the show, but now I would be terminally bored.

As close as I get to reality TV, is Survivor Man, I used to watch Man Vs Wild, until it came out the whole thing was more or less canned,ruined it for me.

The only reality TV I watch is the news. Those other reality shows I stay away from. I find nothing more tedious than watching stupid people with nothing to say. And putting them in bizarre locations is just futile too.

I would love it if we could put all of these people into a situation where their life depended on a single question though. And the minute they get the question wrong, their brains are blown out live or even prerecorded on television. Now that would be reality TV I might tune into.

Its all bollocks.

They have this show here that my wife watches and its basically famous people sharing a house and the cameras observe them eating yoghurt. I refuse to watch it and typically resort to posting on the internet!

I think that was the show Johnny Rotten got kicked off of,for,well,being Johnny Rotten.
Id LOVE to see those episodes

[Gandalf]

As close as I get to reality TV, is Survivor Man, I used to watch Man Vs Wild, until it came out the whole thing was more or less canned,ruined it for me.

The only reality TV I watch is the news. Those other reality shows I stay away from. I find nothing more tedious than watching stupid people with nothing to say. And putting them in bizarre locations is just futile too.

I would love it if we could put all of these people into a situation where their life depended on a single question though. And the minute they get the question wrong, their brains are blown out live or even prerecorded on television. Now that would be reality TV I might tune into.

Its all bollocks.

They have this show here that my wife watches and its basically famous people sharing a house and the cameras observe them eating yoghurt. I refuse to watch it and typically resort to posting on the internet!

I think that was the show Johnny Rotten got kicked off of,for,well,being Johnny Rotten.
Id LOVE to see those episodes

What show was he on? Im sure I heard about him being on some show or other.

I was referring to this silly show with a bunch of Korean "pop" stars with mullets sitting on a sofa sharing yoghurt and talking about makeup tips. Horrible stuff and enough to make a man want to put a foot into the TV.

[Trainer Monkey]

The only reality TV I watch is the news. Those other reality shows I stay away from. I find nothing more tedious than watching stupid people with nothing to say. And putting them in bizarre locations is just futile too.

I would love it if we could put all of these people into a situation where their life depended on a single question though. And the minute they get the question wrong, their brains are blown out live or even prerecorded on television. Now that would be reality TV I might tune into.

Its all bollocks.

They have this show here that my wife watches and its basically famous people sharing a house and the cameras observe them eating yoghurt. I refuse to watch it and typically resort to posting on the internet!

I think that was the show Johnny Rotten got kicked off of,for,well,being Johnny Rotten.
Id LOVE to see those episodes

What show was he on? Im sure I heard about him being on some show or other.

I was referring to this silly show with a bunch of Korean "pop" stars with mullets sitting on a sofa sharing yoghurt and talking about makeup tips. Horrible stuff and enough to make a man want to put a foot into the TV.

Had to look it up,but he was on "Im A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here"
I would kill to see those episodes. I know he got kicked off,for well, being Johnny Rotten.
I think that was his entire goal in the first place,he does stuff like that all the time.
Thats the whole reason he does the Pistols reunions,to ruin the aura of the Pistols for kids who got a Pistols t-shirt at Hot Topic.
The guy lives to be a smart arse

[Wayne]

I dislike the entire idea of "reality tv" they are hybrid of 3 things which aren't that great to begin with #1 Reality, tv was invented to get us away from reality without the use of drugs/alcohol...reality tv should really be the NEWS (in the best case) #2 Game Shows...I suppose with the exception that you need talent to win on some game shows #3 Gossip and inane blabber about worthless people ie Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.


All I am saying is if this is what they plan on feeding the masses then bring back the lions! Is nobody with me

I'll admit I like SOME reality TV, but it really depends on how it is produced. I don't like anything on MTV they pass off as reality. Primarily because it's not geared to my age group. But also because it in no way shape or form resembles reality. Cops is reality (except for when the cop decides to get extra flexy when he brings down a baddy), Taxicab Confessions is reality, Intervention is hella reality. The only show I can really think of that is more like MTV is Scream Queens and it's for a very specific reason: it's more of a gameshow than reality. They are competing for a definite, real prize; a starring role in a hit movie franchise (Saw series). It's not trying to improve a group of crazy women (Charm School) or picking off fatties one by one (The Biggest Loser). Sure 'Loser' has a prize at the end, but the purpose of the show is to help these people lose weight. Why are they being eliminated then? Shouldn't they all stay on the show and the person who loses the most at the end win? If the 'Charm' girls need this help, why boot them? Because it's about something other than this alleged improvement they state. At least with 'Queens' we have a defined task and only one can win. It makes sense that they be elminated one by one. Who the hell cares who wants to be Paris Hilton's next best friend who she'll be dumping on sometime in the coming year? And the dating shows are the worst. My parents hate my girlfriend so much they set me up to go on a date with two other girls. No, in REALITY, my parents wouldn't allow my girlfriend in the house if she were an uber-bitch. And don't stick my whiny ass in a house with a bunch of whiny 20 somethings. I used to love 'Real World', hell, I wanted to be on the show, but now I would be terminally bored.

As close as I get to reality TV, is Survivor Man, I used to watch Man Vs Wild, until it came out the whole thing was more or less canned,ruined it for me.

I prefer Survivor Man too. And not only because Bear Grills goes to a hotel every night. Survivor Man is out there all by himself; he's his own camera crew and if he gets in over his head he calls for them to come scoop him up. I'm telling you, Intervention is one of the most compelling reality shows you can find. A lot of them are whiny, but they're almost all stories that will draw you right in. These are people who are completely self-centered, who accept no personal responsibility for the situation they are in. But the impact on their families is where you have the meat of the situation.

Like for instance this one where this guy was an alcoholic. He'd been an avid body builder for years and even owned his own gym. But then one of the drugs he used was illegalized and the guy went on a downward spiral. He had a shitty upbringing, of course, and had had to drop out of school to take care of his entire family because his father left and his mother was pretty much useless. He never had a childhood and the guy wound up dying not long after getting booted out of the rehab clinic. The damage had been done; he had bruises all over his body from where the alcohol was wailing on him. Pretty much taking him off vodkie then was pointless.