Why does HBO hate on Margarito

[Taeth]

Look at the Lovermore N'Dou vs Cotto fight, Cotto's face looked busted up there as well, look at his face in the Judah fight. Cotto isn't as tough physically or mentally as Margarito. Some guys faces can look the same through any amount of punishment, while other guys look like their faces have rearranged from far less punishment. You could definitely tell that Cotto was having problems with the pressure from round 2 on, but it wasn't his head that was snapping back 10+ times a round.

Obviously Margarito won the fight, but I am saying it wasn't a destruction. People are getting way too far fetched.

[Rantcatrat]

Look at the Lovermore N'Dou vs Cotto fight, Cotto's face looked busted up there as well, look at his face in the Judah fight. Cotto isn't as tough physically or mentally as Margarito. Some guys faces can look the same through any amount of punishment, while other guys look like their faces have rearranged from far less punishment. You could definitely tell that Cotto was having problems with the pressure from round 2 on, but it wasn't his head that was snapping back 10+ times a round.

Obviously Margarito won the fight, but I am saying it wasn't a destruction. People are getting way too far fetched.

Taeth,

I disagree. Cotto gets more credit in his loss against Margarito than most fighters do that are forced to submit after being viciously knocked down three times. Conversely, Margarito doesn't get as much credit as most fighters do that beat a top ten p4p fighter in their prime and on their way up the ladder.

If your definition of destruction is a domination from round one that ends in a catastrophic KO, then you are right, it wasn't a destruction. But, Margarito beat Cotto up. Plain and simple. Fights last 12 rounds for a reason.

Also, the official scorecards don't bear out your opinion of the Margarito v. Williams fight. They were: 115-113, 115-113, and 116-112. In my books, that is a close fight. Again, I give Paul credit where it is due (this post isn't about Paul). He beat Margarito. I still say I haven't seen a closer fight against Williams. Moreover, recently Williams has been knocking people out left and right, but he never even hurt Margarito, which is testament to Margarito.

And just to make it interesting, I'll come out right now and say it, as much as I like Mosley, I fully expect Margarito to steam roll through him in January as well.

[Taeth]

Look at the Lovermore N'Dou vs Cotto fight, Cotto's face looked busted up there as well, look at his face in the Judah fight. Cotto isn't as tough physically or mentally as Margarito. Some guys faces can look the same through any amount of punishment, while other guys look like their faces have rearranged from far less punishment. You could definitely tell that Cotto was having problems with the pressure from round 2 on, but it wasn't his head that was snapping back 10+ times a round.

Obviously Margarito won the fight, but I am saying it wasn't a destruction. People are getting way too far fetched.

Taeth,

I disagree. Cotto gets more credit in his loss against Margarito than most fighters do that are forced to submit after being viciously knocked down three times. Conversely, Margarito doesn't get as much credit as most fighters do that beat a top ten p4p fighter in their prime and on their way up the ladder.

If your definition of destruction is a domination from round one that ends in a catastrophic KO, then you are right, it wasn't a destruction. But, Margarito beat Cotto up. Plain and simple. Fights last 12 rounds for a reason.

Also, the official scorecards don't bear out your opinion of the Margarito v. Williams fight. They were: 115-113, 115-113, and 116-112. In my books, that is a close fight. Again, I give Paul credit where it is due (this post isn't about Paul). He beat Margarito. I still say I haven't seen a closer fight against Williams. Moreover, recently Williams has been knocking people out left and right, but he never even hurt Margarito, which is testament to Margarito.

And just to make it interesting, I'll come out right now and say it, as much as I like Mosley, I fully expect Margarito to steam roll through him in January as well.

Scorecards are bullshit I don't value what judges say half the time, look at some of the scorecards lately. MAB-JMM: 116-111, 116-111, 118-109?!!! WTF, did they even see the fight? PBF-ODLH: 113-115, 115-113, 116-112 Only the 116-112 made any sense, Mayweather won 8 or 9 of the rounds. In Joe CAlzaghe-Bernard Hopkins: one of the judges had Calzaghe up by 5 rounds with the knockdown, wtf was he watching. Or Hopkins-Wright: 116-112,117-111,117-111 wtf was going on here?

Margarito-Williams was competitive for the second half of the fight, but it wasn't close fight because Williams got out to a huge lead, and he had to slow down a lot before Margarito could getting his offense going. Also we already knew Margarito had a good chin that doens't change anything that Williams who isn't a heavy puncher couldn't hurt him, Cotto and especially Cintron hit way harder than WIlliams. Williams also got outboxed by Carlos Quintana in their first fight, he caught Quintana flush the second time around, and to his credit stopped him, but Williams is easy to hit, and Margarito couldn't land for most of the fight, because he is only accurate on the inside.

As for Cotto-Margarito, I give him all the credit in the world for walking through what he did against Cintron and Cotto, and I don't see how me saying that Cotto clearly outboxed him the first 6 rounds changes that.

And he didn't knock Cotto visciously down, COtto took a knee both times, the second time Margarito hadn't even landed a shot and Cotto went down. What Margarito did nobody else had been able to do, that was stop Cotto, but other guys had badly hurt Cotto, other guys have made Cotto fight off his back foot all night (Abdullaev, and Lovemore Ndou) Ndou and Mosley took Cotto's punches just as easily as Margarito, but he threw more punches, did more damage, and proved himself. I just think people looked too much into this fight, I thought Cotto would win going in, but I knew stylewise he was in for a tough fight, that he couldn't hurt Margarito, and I wasn't sure how he defense would hold up. I give credit to Margarito for breaking somebodies will who I didn't think he would, but the win doesn't make him a better fighter than Cotto, and doesn't make him a great fighter. Mayorga beat up Vernon Forrest, who was way better than him, because of the matchup. IMO Jermain Taylor is better than Pavlik, but lost because of the matchup, and I think Pavlik who is a good fighter like Margarito maybe even better, gets too much credit for what he did against Taylor.

As for Margarito-Mosley, Mosley has the wrong mentality and is there for the picking, but I highly doubt Margarito will stop him, and I think it will be an uglier fight than most think. Mosley and Vargas was, Mosley and Mayorga was, its hard to get offense going against Mosley who fights so wierd against bigger guys.