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[XaduBoxer]

Hoya has some problems fighting 5' 6" southpaws (Whitaker and Camacho). Though a prime Hoya won in those fights, he was not able to knockout those old 5' 6" southpaw guys...

Of course PAC is no Camacho or Whitaker... The similarities are in height and stance only...

Remember today Hoya is not considered a prime boxer anymore while the 5' 6 1/2" southpaw PAC is still in his prime...

Here's some video of Hoya-Whitaker and Hoya-Camacho fights. Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUo3zBkmToohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnzeSN0lzFIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46duousdNns

[Fenster]

If Oscar catches Pac with a quarter of the left hands Marquez did in the third fight, it's goodnight vienna for the Pacster.

[XaduBoxer]

If Oscar catches Pac with a quarter of the left hands Marquez did in the third fight, it's goodnight vienna for the Pacster.

If PAC catches Hoya with the same short left cross that caught JMM and Diaz (and most recently PAC sparring partner), I think Hoya can possibly kiss the canvass...
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[Fenster]

If Oscar catches Pac with a quarter of the left hands Marquez did in the third fight, it's goodnight vienna for the Pacster.

If PAC catches Hoya with the same short left cross that caught JMM and Diaz (and most recently PAC sparring partner), I think Hoya can possibly kiss the canvass...
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I don't think so. That's the problem for Pac, his punches wont have the same impact on the much BIGGER man.

Pac hit Diaz with EVERYTHING including the kitchen sink but it still took 9 rounds to depose him.

He wont be able to outclass Oscar like that.

[XaduBoxer]

If Oscar catches Pac with a quarter of the left hands Marquez did in the third fight, it's goodnight vienna for the Pacster.

If PAC catches Hoya with the same short left cross that caught JMM and Diaz (and most recently PAC sparring partner), I think Hoya can possibly kiss the canvass...
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I don't think so. That's the problem for Pac, his punches wont have the same impact on the much BIGGER man.

Pac hit Diaz with EVERYTHING including the kitchen sink but it still took 9 rounds to depose him.

He wont be able to outclass Oscar like that.

You have a very valid point... I only want to stress out that as of late, the very quick short left cross is the most lethal weapon in PAC's arsenal scoring his 3 latest knockdowns (JMM - KD, Diaz - KO and sparring partner - KD)... PAC can even shoot that short left cross even on a back foot... Hoya can possibly go down from that shot but not necessarily badly hurt...
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[DAWGSWIN]

Maybe this will inspire Oscar on his Ring Walk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6JxW5S27G0

[GAME]

If Oscar catches Pac with a quarter of the left hands Marquez did in the third fight, it's goodnight vienna for the Pacster.

If PAC catches Hoya with the same short left cross that caught JMM and Diaz (and most recently PAC sparring partner), I think Hoya can possibly kiss the canvass...
.

I don't think so. That's the problem for Pac, his punches wont have the same impact on the much BIGGER man.

Pac hit Diaz with EVERYTHING including the kitchen sink but it still took 9 rounds to depose him.

He wont be able to outclass Oscar like that.

Thats a good point . Diaz is probably the most awful boxer you could imagine but Pac had to hit him over and over and over again before he started to wear him down .

[XaduBoxer]

If PAC catches Hoya with the same short left cross that caught JMM and Diaz (and most recently PAC sparring partner), I think Hoya can possibly kiss the canvass...
.

I don't think so. That's the problem for Pac, his punches wont have the same impact on the much BIGGER man.

Pac hit Diaz with EVERYTHING including the kitchen sink but it still took 9 rounds to depose him.

He wont be able to outclass Oscar like that.

Thats a good point . Diaz is probably the most awful boxer you could imagine but Pac had to hit him over and over and over again before he started to wear him down .

I think you can't just attribute Diaz not going down sooner to alleged diminished power of PAC... It can also indicate how tough and durable Diaz is...

Diaz might be an awful boxer but he's very tough and durable...
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[leftylee]

He has a small chance.

And actually I want Pac to win. I want him to smash Oscar De La Whora. It would be an outstanding achievement.

Then we will see a real, mega matchup, Hatton v Pac.

My god the thought of that makes my blood boil with excitement

[ICB]

Hoya has some problems fighting 5' 6" southpaws (Whitaker and Camacho). Though a prime Hoya won in those fights, he was not able to knockout those old 5' 6" southpaw guys...

Of course PAC is no Camacho or Whitaker... The similarities are in height and stance only...

Remember today Hoya is not considered a prime boxer anymore while the 5' 6 1/2" southpaw PAC is still in his prime...

Here's some video of Hoya-Whitaker and Hoya-Camacho fights. Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUo3zBkmToohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnzeSN0lzFIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46duousdNns

Hector Camacho had to fight defensively the entire night, to survive. And considering he has never been stopped in 85 fights. I can safely say he has an iron chin and theres no shame in not being able to stop Hector Camacho.

Also you actually need to watch the fight Saddoboxer, when did Hector Camacho ever give ODLH any problems ? he lost probably every single round and was knocked down, i didn't think Hector Camacho ever give ODLH any problems at all.

As for Pernell Whitaker come on Saddoboxer, Pernell Whitaker is one of the best defensive fighters of all time. And even though Pernell Whitaker is one of my favorites. Even he had to fight defensively for most of the fight, to make it close and competitive i personally had it a draw.

Manny Pacquiao is nothing like any of these fighters at all, he hits and gets hit. Manny Pacquiao is an improved fighter but he is still very hittable, and theres no way on earth Manny Pacquiao would fight anything like the fighters above, because personally he can't. He hasn't got there skill sets.

[zhubin]

Hoya has some problems fighting 5' 6" southpaws (Whitaker and Camacho). Though a prime Hoya won in those fights, he was not able to knockout those old 5' 6" southpaw guys...

Of course PAC is no Camacho or Whitaker... The similarities are in height and stance only...

Remember today Hoya is not considered a prime boxer anymore while the 5' 6 1/2" southpaw PAC is still in his prime...

Here's some video of Hoya-Whitaker and Hoya-Camacho fights. Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUo3zBkmToohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnzeSN0lzFIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46duousdNns

Hector Camacho had to fight defensively the entire night, to survive. And considering he has never been stopped in 85 fights. I can safely say he has an iron chin and theres no shame in not being able to stop Hector Camacho.

Also you actually need to watch the fight Saddoboxer, when did Hector Camacho ever give ODLH any problems ? he lost probably every single round and was knocked down, i didn't think Hector Camacho ever give ODLH any problems at all.

As for Pernell Whitaker come on Saddoboxer, Pernell Whitaker is one of the best defensive fighters of all time. And even though Pernell Whitaker is one of my favorites. Even he had to fight defensively for most of the fight, to make it close and competitive i personally had it a draw.

Manny Pacquiao is nothing like any of these fighters at all, he hits and gets hit. Manny Pacquiao is an improved fighter but he is still very hittable, and theres no way on earth Manny Pacquiao would fight anything like the fighters above, because personally he can't. He hasn't got there skill sets.

Well said ICB. I think we are at a point where we have analyzed this fight to death. Some people just don't want to use logic to see how this fight will pan out. Do i think Oscar, at 35, is as good a fighter he was 10 years ago...obviously not. Oscar has weaknesses...but in this particular matchup, his advantages far outweigh his disadvantages. Outside of him coming into this fight weight drained and weak...he has no business losing. If Pac pulls the upset...my hats off to him.