Are you talking cycling as a competitive organized sport, or cycling in general including sport and recreational pastime? You have a link to support this? Thanks.Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Are you talking cycling as a competitive organized sport, or cycling in general including sport and recreational pastime? You have a link to support this? Thanks.
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Id have to look it up again,but if you run a google search using Sport Related Deaths,you'll end up finding both the links I found,theyre relatively dry stats to read through. Bicycling is also the leader in juvenile injuries.Are you talking cycling as a competitive organized sport, or cycling in general including recreational pastime? You have a link to support this? Thanks.
Though for juvenile trips to the emergency room, I was surprised to see that basketball was really high up there,I didnt expect that.
Wait I still had it in my google bar so I looked it up again
Heres one
Sports Injury Statistics - My Child Has - Children's Hospital Boston
Heres another
Sport Injuries and Injury Statistics
There are more links,but my ass is way to lazy to keep digging again
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Trips to the emergency room stats are irrelevant IMO. Its niave to compare injuries that can be repaired, such as a broken limb, to irrepairable, irreversible brain damage.
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Yeah hang out with my arthritis and tell me that
Trips to the emergency room stats are irrelevant IMO. Its niave to compare injuries that can be repaired, such as a broken limb, to irrepairable, irreversible brain damage.
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You're going to compare some joint pain to not being able to dress yourself? Dont be so foolish
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What does extreme joint pain create, a situation where you cant dress yourself,or get out of bed,or walk,or do much of damn nigh anything
You're going to compare some joint pain to not being able to dress yourself? Dont be so foolish
Dont be foolish
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Not a pleasant state, but there are drugs and treatments you can take to alleviate the pain and improve movement in the joints.
Too bad there are no drugs that can give Gerald McClellan back his sight and ability to walk.
Don't be an idiot, comparing yourself to these brain damaged warriors is incredibly idiotic.
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Speaking as someone who HAS arthritis (and has never boxed), that is not a foolish comparison at all. Joint pain can lead to the same list of inabilities in daily life. There are some days where I can barely stand or walk because my hip will not allow me to.
You're going to compare some joint pain to not being able to dress yourself? Dont be so foolish
Yes, there are medications that we can take to assist with the pain and there are joint replacement surgeries, so there are options that do not exist with brain damage.
But there is also the chance of having an active, creative brain trapped in a body that no longer functions as it should, leading to frustration or even depression. And like brain damage, it only worsens over time. Even the pain mediications and surgeries are only temporary measures.
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Yeah, I am also too lazy to spend a lot of time looking. I'd be surprised if we are talking about just competitive bicycle racing. But a high death rate in recreational cycling that wouldn't surprise me, as there is a somewhat higher risk of getting hit by a car while cycling, than in the boxing ring. I'd also say the participation numbers are much lower for boxing.Id have to look it up again,but if you run a google search using Sport Related Deaths,you'll end up finding both the links I found,theyre relatively dry stats to read through. Bicycling is also the leader in juvenile injuries.Are you talking cycling as a competitive organized sport, or cycling in general including recreational pastime? You have a link to support this? Thanks.
Though for juvenile trips to the emergency room, I was surprised to see that basketball was really high up there,I didnt expect that.
Wait I still had it in my google bar so I looked it up again
Heres one
Sports Injury Statistics - My Child Has - Children's Hospital Boston
Heres another
Sport Injuries and Injury Statistics
There are more links,but my ass is way to lazy to keep digging again
A quick bit research seems to indicate that the most common sports related cause of death is cardiac arrest, which can happen in any sport. The numbers are surprisingly high for young people and cardiac arrest.
Last edited by CGM; 12-04-2008 at 03:50 PM.
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I know a few guys have snuffed it doing the Tour De France,apparantly theres one pass thats just a death trap if you screw up.Yeah, I am also too lazy to spend a lot of time looking. I'd be surprised if we are talking about just competitive bicycle racing. But recreational cycling that wouldn't surprise me, as there is a somewhat higher risk of getting hit by a car while cycling, than in the boxing ring. I'd also say the participation numbers are much lower for boxing.Id have to look it up again,but if you run a google search using Sport Related Deaths,you'll end up finding both the links I found,theyre relatively dry stats to read through. Bicycling is also the leader in juvenile injuries.
Though for juvenile trips to the emergency room, I was surprised to see that basketball was really high up there,I didnt expect that.
Wait I still had it in my google bar so I looked it up again
Heres one
Sports Injury Statistics - My Child Has - Children's Hospital Boston
Heres another
Sport Injuries and Injury Statistics
There are more links,but my ass is way to lazy to keep digging again
A quick bit research seems to indicate that the most common sports related cause of death is cardiac arrest, which can happen in any sport. The numbers are surprisingly high for young people and cardiac arrest.
I was kind of surprised by the stats, I was expecting Football to be the hands down winner,I didnt expect bicycling and basketball to be that high on the list.
Goes to show,you dont allways know what you think you know
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Yes, there are surprises. I understand that motocross racing is physically very taxing. All kinds of punishment absorbed there.I know a few guys have snuffed it doing the Tour De France,apparantly theres one pass thats just a death trap if you screw up.Yeah, I am also too lazy to spend a lot of time looking. I'd be surprised if we are talking about just competitive bicycle racing. But recreational cycling that wouldn't surprise me, as there is a somewhat higher risk of getting hit by a car while cycling, than in the boxing ring. I'd also say the participation numbers are much lower for boxing.
A quick bit research seems to indicate that the most common sports related cause of death is cardiac arrest, which can happen in any sport. The numbers are surprisingly high for young people and cardiac arrest.
I was kind of surprised by the stats, I was expecting Football to be the hands down winner,I didnt expect bicycling and basketball to be that high on the list.
Goes to show,you dont allways know what you think you know
We need to stay clear and on point regards to what we are talking about, or else comparisons are meaningless. Recreation or competition? Death or injury? Also the time period over which statistics are compiled.
I know of at least one Tour de France death that was drug related, because apparently drugs enabled the cyclist to push his body beyond the limits of safety.
But I guess I'm getting off topic here, although all this is useful to make clear that boxing isn't the only dangerous sport, though I'd say it probably is at the top of the list for cumulative brain injury.
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Id say its changed alot since the abolition of the 15 round fight. Guys leave the sport now,and theyre cool.Yes, there are surprises. I understand that motocross racing is physically very taxing. All kinds of punishment absorbed there.I know a few guys have snuffed it doing the Tour De France,apparantly theres one pass thats just a death trap if you screw up.
I was kind of surprised by the stats, I was expecting Football to be the hands down winner,I didnt expect bicycling and basketball to be that high on the list.
Goes to show,you dont allways know what you think you know
We need to stay clear and on point regards to what we are talking about, or else comparisons are meaningless. Recreation or competition? Death or injury? Also the time period over which statistics are compiled.
I know of at least one Tour de France death that was drug related, because apparently drugs enabled the cyclist to push his body beyond the limits of safety.
But I guess I'm getting off topic here, although all this is useful to make clear that boxing isn't the only dangerous sport, though I'd say it probably is at the top of the list for cumulative brain injury.
Thats why Im so vehemently opposed to the re-instatement of the 15 round fight, between dehydration, and exhaustion, those guys allmost all walked out of their career punchy.
But lets face the facts,all athletic activities are inherently dangerous, thats why its an athletic activity. If your grandma could be a sprinter,then everyone could.
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