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    Default Re: I have come to realize...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    No, it isn't a guess at all. It's empirical evidence based on how many congressional laws each judge struck down. One of us argues using facts and evidence and one of us using stuff some blowhard on the radio told them/fairy stories/guesses.
    You say that as if there is only one correct way of interpreting the Constitution. And my friend you are wrong...just like every other argument we've had. There are two ways of interpreting the Constitution #1. As a blueprint for what our government does (ie we are ruled by the Constitution) #2 As a living document that can be tailored to fit our government (ie the Constitution is changed to suit our needs).....and honestly those can be right or wrong depending on the circumstances, the precidents, and how good of a job the lawyers state their cases.


    So if you want to blame Thomas and Scalia for their decisions then you had better find those pansy ass liberal lawyers and blame them for doing a fucking horrible job of convincing those guys of their case.

    And if you had ever bothered to ask me any of the decisions I would make if given the chance, you'd see I am very open minded and reasonable
    Considering how diametrically opposed the view points would be,your chosing to blaim liberal lawyers for getting the rulings out of Thomas and Scalia?
    What did they do,hold them down and noogie them until they decided to legislate from the bench?

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    Considering how diametrically opposed the view points would be,your chosing to blaim liberal lawyers for getting the rulings out of Thomas and Scalia?
    What did they do,hold them down and noogie them until they decided to legislate from the bench?
    If they had a legal leg to stand on the rulings wouldn't have been made against the liberal lawyers.



    Kirkland, I am awaiting the specifics of your argument....there is nothing there you just accuse them of legislating from the bench with nothing backing up your point of view

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Considering how diametrically opposed the view points would be,your chosing to blaim liberal lawyers for getting the rulings out of Thomas and Scalia?
    What did they do,hold them down and noogie them until they decided to legislate from the bench?
    If they had a legal leg to stand on the rulings wouldn't have been made against the liberal lawyers.



    Kirkland, I am awaiting the specifics of your argument....there is nothing there you just accuse them of legislating from the bench with nothing backing up your point of view
    I posted a study of SC decisions showing the judges most likely to strike down congessional laws. What part of it don't you understand?

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    Think long and hard about this Kirkland.....who would be more likely to strike down a new law as "unconstitutional" a person who views the Constitution as a "living thing" or a person who views the Constitution as a "blueprint for our government".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Think long and hard about this Kirkland.....who would be more likely to strike down a new law as "unconstitutional" a person who views the Constitution as a "living thing" or a person who views the Constitution as a "blueprint for our government".
    I don't have to think about it, the empirical evidence of SC decisions of the current judges shows us exaclty :

    Thomas 65.63 %
    Kennedy 64.06 %
    Scalia 56.25 %
    Rehnquist 46.88 %
    O'Connor 46.77 %
    Souter 42.19 %
    Stevens 39.34 %
    Ginsburg 39.06 %
    Breyer 28.13 %

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    But the definition of how they view the Constitution would tell you that before even looking at that evidence. It doesn't mean the laws they shot down didn't need to be shot down....and that's the information I am after. What laws specifically did they get rid of that offend you so deeply oh insufferable one.

    Also you never show any love for Ronald Reagan yet he put Sandra Day O'Connor on the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    But the definition of how they view the Constitution would tell you that before even looking at that evidence. It doesn't mean the laws they shot down didn't need to be shot down....and that's the information I am after. What laws specifically did they get rid of that offend you so deeply oh insufferable one.

    Also you never show any love for Ronald Reagan yet he put Sandra Day O'Connor on the bench.
    It doesn't matter which laws they struck down, it's the fact that they "legislated from the bench" by striking down laws a democratically elected body had passed into law. Whether those laws meet with your or my approval or not is irrelevant, they were passed into law by your democratically elected represenatives.

    And Reagan was a traitor who put America on the road to bankrupcy. They should dig him up and charge him with treason.

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