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    Default Re: Carl Froch vs Jean Pascal Quality Fight So Far

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    I thought it was a brilliant fight.

    Both should be praised for fighting their bollocks off.

    It was closer than the scorecards but the right man won. Well done big nose.
    Great entertaining figt that answered a lot of Q's. Froch has a very good chin, but little defensive capabilities, he has decent power but isn't the wrechink machine that his fans wanted everyone to believe. He's shown that he belongs competing with the best in the division.

    IMO he'd be the clear underdog against Kess. 50/50 with Bute, with the advantage going with the home fighter, and also 50/50 with Taylor (I reckon Taylor is more skilled but won't be able to take Carl out.)
    The funny thing is, we all ready knew his strengths and weaknesses.. they were just highlighted by the higher calibre fighter...

    His chin has always looked solid at lower level.. and now passed the test in higher class.

    His defence has always looked awful.. and got totally exposed as that in higher class.

    His power has always been decent without looking dynamite.. which showed in higher class.

    I reckon Kessler would slaughter him. He has a good chance against the others though.
    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.

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    Great entertaining figt that answered a lot of Q's. Froch has a very good chin, but little defensive capabilities, he has decent power but isn't the wrechink machine that his fans wanted everyone to believe. He's shown that he belongs competing with the best in the division.

    IMO he'd be the clear underdog against Kess. 50/50 with Bute, with the advantage going with the home fighter, and also 50/50 with Taylor (I reckon Taylor is more skilled but won't be able to take Carl out.)
    The funny thing is, we all ready knew his strengths and weaknesses.. they were just highlighted by the higher calibre fighter...

    His chin has always looked solid at lower level.. and now passed the test in higher class.

    His defence has always looked awful.. and got totally exposed as that in higher class.

    His power has always been decent without looking dynamite.. which showed in higher class.

    I reckon Kessler would slaughter him. He has a good chance against the others though.
    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.
    He would have a shot to beat beat Andrade or Bute, but he's certainly not a class above them. Bute is a far superior boxer who has faced much better competition than Froch. I'd make Bute a pretty big favorite. Froch against Andrade would be interesting, but can you see Froch taking Andrade's shots as well has he took Pascal's? Those wild haymaker you mentioned, what if those had been from Andrade?

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    The funny thing is, we all ready knew his strengths and weaknesses.. they were just highlighted by the higher calibre fighter...

    His chin has always looked solid at lower level.. and now passed the test in higher class.

    His defence has always looked awful.. and got totally exposed as that in higher class.

    His power has always been decent without looking dynamite.. which showed in higher class.

    I reckon Kessler would slaughter him. He has a good chance against the others though.
    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.
    He would have a shot to beat beat Andrade or Bute, but he's certainly not a class above them. Bute is a far superior boxer who has faced much better competition than Froch. I'd make Bute a pretty big favorite. Froch against Andrade would be interesting, but can you see Froch taking Andrade's shots as well has he took Pascal's? Those wild haymaker you mentioned, what if those had been from Andrade?
    100% agree …I don’t see Cobra winning more than 1 or 2 rounds in a Kessler fight and I’d go 60/40 on Bute or Taylor, they already proved they can handle tough opposition if are not hard pressed.
    With Andrade is another story, there are not just those wild haymaker, I have also some doubts that Froch has the stamina to keep the pace , it would be a good fight though.

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    I love fights like this. They bring a tear to my eye.

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    The other thing about Froch is that he dosent like to go to the Body as much as id like.

    Every time Pascal bent low (way below the waist most times) i was screaming at Froch to dig in with the Left Down stairs.

    Froch Neglected the left hook mostly of teh fight. Considering the fact he holds that hand so low, how pointless is that
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    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.
    He would have a shot to beat beat Andrade or Bute, but he's certainly not a class above them. Bute is a far superior boxer who has faced much better competition than Froch. I'd make Bute a pretty big favorite. Froch against Andrade would be interesting, but can you see Froch taking Andrade's shots as well has he took Pascal's? Those wild haymaker you mentioned, what if those had been from Andrade?
    100% agree …I don’t see Cobra winning more than 1 or 2 rounds in a Kessler fight and I’d go 60/40 on Bute or Taylor, they already proved they can handle tough opposition if are not hard pressed.
    With Andrade is another story, there are not just those wild haymaker, I have also some doubts that Froch has the stamina to keep the pace , it would be a good fight though.
    Even with andrade's poor technical abilities he'll be landing on Froch regularly. Would be a hell of a brawl and a bit of a pick 'em.

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    Default Re: Carl Froch vs Jean Pascal Quality Fight So Far

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
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    Great entertaining figt that answered a lot of Q's. Froch has a very good chin, but little defensive capabilities, he has decent power but isn't the wrechink machine that his fans wanted everyone to believe. He's shown that he belongs competing with the best in the division.

    IMO he'd be the clear underdog against Kess. 50/50 with Bute, with the advantage going with the home fighter, and also 50/50 with Taylor (I reckon Taylor is more skilled but won't be able to take Carl out.)
    The funny thing is, we all ready knew his strengths and weaknesses.. they were just highlighted by the higher calibre fighter...

    His chin has always looked solid at lower level.. and now passed the test in higher class.

    His defence has always looked awful.. and got totally exposed as that in higher class.

    His power has always been decent without looking dynamite.. which showed in higher class.

    I reckon Kessler would slaughter him. He has a good chance against the others though.
    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.
    Just watched the fight. 118 - 110 my ass - what fight was that judge watching haven't seen much of Froch, he sure is a dirty fighter. Lots of holding and hitting, leaning on the head, hitting behind the head etc. Was a good fight though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikersk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    The funny thing is, we all ready knew his strengths and weaknesses.. they were just highlighted by the higher calibre fighter...

    His chin has always looked solid at lower level.. and now passed the test in higher class.

    His defence has always looked awful.. and got totally exposed as that in higher class.

    His power has always been decent without looking dynamite.. which showed in higher class.

    I reckon Kessler would slaughter him. He has a good chance against the others though.
    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.
    Just watched the fight. 118 - 110 my ass - what fight was that judge watching haven't seen much of Froch, he sure is a dirty fighter. Lots of holding and hitting, leaning on the head, hitting behind the head etc. Was a good fight though.
    Its called boxing clever and using the best of your abilitys to gain an advantage.

    Froch is one of the smartest fighters in the game that fights with his head rather than through sheer brute strength.

    I scored it 116-112 the 1st time and 117-111 when i watched it again last night.

    Though he really has gotta get out of that habit of getting caught on the inside when he trys to tie his man up!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    I agree. I wasn't sold on his chin before the weekend, and his defence was actually worse than I anticipated against the higher caliber opponent. Rozzy sean is right when he says Froch isn't with the upper echelon of the sport, but neither are Bute/Andrade, which gives him a good shot of beating them. But he simply hasn't got the much vaunted power to take out Kess and no way he wins a decision. Every single time Pascal threw a wild hayemaher from the outside he bloody landed it.

    Pascal was gracious in defeat as well, he accepted that he lost without bullshit in his interview, while he pointed out the scoring should have been closer. And he was rioght, the 118-110 score was criminal considering the man's effort.
    Just watched the fight. 118 - 110 my ass - what fight was that judge watching haven't seen much of Froch, he sure is a dirty fighter. Lots of holding and hitting, leaning on the head, hitting behind the head etc. Was a good fight though.
    Its called boxing clever and using the best of your abilitys to gain an advantage.

    Froch is one of the smartest fighters in the game that fights with his head rather than through sheer brute strength.

    I scored it 116-112 the 1st time and 117-111 when i watched it again last night.

    Though he really has gotta get out of that habit of getting caught on the inside when he trys to tie his man up!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bikersk View Post

    Just watched the fight. 118 - 110 my ass - what fight was that judge watching haven't seen much of Froch, he sure is a dirty fighter. Lots of holding and hitting, leaning on the head, hitting behind the head etc. Was a good fight though.
    Its called boxing clever and using the best of your abilitys to gain an advantage.

    Froch is one of the smartest fighters in the game that fights with his head rather than through sheer brute strength.

    I scored it 116-112 the 1st time and 117-111 when i watched it again last night.

    Though he really has gotta get out of that habit of getting caught on the inside when he trys to tie his man up!!


    Funny guy.

    Yes because froch has got to get where he is by being blessed with amazing strength and a chin made out of iron




    If youve ever heard the man chat about the sport you`ll soon realise he is one of the most intelligent guys inside the ring and out of it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    Its called boxing clever and using the best of your abilitys to gain an advantage.

    Froch is one of the smartest fighters in the game that fights with his head rather than through sheer brute strength.

    I scored it 116-112 the 1st time and 117-111 when i watched it again last night.

    Though he really has gotta get out of that habit of getting caught on the inside when he trys to tie his man up!!


    Funny guy.

    Yes because froch has got to get where he is by being blessed with amazing strength and a chin made out of iron




    If youve ever heard the man chat about the sport you`ll soon realise he is one of the most intelligent guys inside the ring and out of it!!
    Maybe just maybe Froch got where he is by fighting bums.

    Froch was getting outboxed by Pascal until Pascal got tired.

    He hasn't shown me anything that makes me believe he is a smart fighter, If he is as smart as you make out why hasnt he worked on his seriously flawed defense.

    Plus Froch's so called dangerous power was no where to be seen against Pascal.

    Froch's power = Overated.

    Froch gets outboxed by Kessler, Bute and Taylor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    Its called boxing clever and using the best of your abilitys to gain an advantage.

    Froch is one of the smartest fighters in the game that fights with his head rather than through sheer brute strength.

    I scored it 116-112 the 1st time and 117-111 when i watched it again last night.

    Though he really has gotta get out of that habit of getting caught on the inside when he trys to tie his man up!!


    Funny guy.

    Yes because froch has got to get where he is by being blessed with amazing strength and a chin made out of iron




    If youve ever heard the man chat about the sport you`ll soon realise he is one of the most intelligent guys inside the ring and out of it!!
    I agree he's intelligent outside the ring, but I'm not sure where you get the idea that he applies that brain once he steps inside the ropes.

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