Froch - What Next for the Cobra...?

[Fenster]

When I can tell by watching them that that's what they are, I do. Let's look back in five years and see what Jean Pascal's record looks like. It will be filled with losses to guys like Froch, Andre Dirrell, Andre Ward, etc if he sticks around the game that long.

Thus, when I see Froch matched against Pascal, though they both undefeated, I know that Pascal is nothing better than a journeyman-type, opponent-type fighter, and Froch, in spite of his pitiful opposition to date, has actual talent. The jury is still out on how high Froch will go, but time is running out on him.

You are pretty good judge of talent, Fenster. I give you credit for being able to tell the difference between a real prospect and a paper prospect by using your eyes. I know there are plenty of guys you have seen who are undefeated and young, but they are nothing more than average. Perhaps he's not a "journeyman" yet, but that's this future. If you rate Pascal any better, it's just because you love Froch and want this win to mean more than it does.

Me love Froch

On this site, ive been a critic of his from DAY ONE. Ive always predicted he would FAIL at the very top. And still do. Ive already stated Kessler will "slaughter" him and he'd start underdog against Bute, Taylor (slight) and be 50/50 with Bika and Andrade.

I give credit where it's due though. And have no problem admitting when i'm wrong.

Pascal was a decorated amatuer, unbeaten and ranked no.3 by the WBC. Considering Froch had never fought anyone above Brit/Euro level, Pascal was a leap in class for him - which he passed.

You're clearly a far harsher, more confident judge of unbeaten prospects than me. I'm more inclined to give someone the benefit of doubt.. ESPECIALLY before they've lost

[RozzySean]

When I can tell by watching them that that's what they are, I do. Let's look back in five years and see what Jean Pascal's record looks like. It will be filled with losses to guys like Froch, Andre Dirrell, Andre Ward, etc if he sticks around the game that long.

Thus, when I see Froch matched against Pascal, though they both undefeated, I know that Pascal is nothing better than a journeyman-type, opponent-type fighter, and Froch, in spite of his pitiful opposition to date, has actual talent. The jury is still out on how high Froch will go, but time is running out on him.

You are pretty good judge of talent, Fenster. I give you credit for being able to tell the difference between a real prospect and a paper prospect by using your eyes. I know there are plenty of guys you have seen who are undefeated and young, but they are nothing more than average. Perhaps he's not a "journeyman" yet, but that's this future. If you rate Pascal any better, it's just because you love Froch and want this win to mean more than it does.

Me love Froch

On this site, ive been a critic of his from DAY ONE. Ive always predicted he would FAIL at the very top. And still do. Ive already stated Kessler will "slaughter" him and he'd start underdog against Bute, Taylor (slight) and be 50/50 with Bika and Andrade.

I give credit where it's due though. And have no problem admitting when i'm wrong.

Pascal was a decorated amatuer, unbeaten and ranked no.3 by the WBC. Considering Froch had never fought anyone above Brit/Euro level, Pascal was a leap in class for him - which he passed.

You're clearly a far harsher, more confident judge of unbeaten prospects than me. I'm more inclined to give someone the benefit of doubt.. ESPECIALLY before they've lost

We agree more than we disagree. I had no idea about Pascal amatuer pedigree. I'm going based on seeing him fight a few times and somewhat by looking at his record. When they were building him up to fight Miranda and he was calling out Miranda, I was thinking, you gotta be kidding me. Miranda will murder this guy.

Perhaps I'm being a little hard on Pascal. He was a necessary step up for him, but it was a test I full expected him to pass. I'm not sure if Froch is worse than I thought or Pascal is a little better.

I am a pretty harsh judge of prospects, actually, but I think I have a good eye, in spite of a rash of bad picks lately on the sportsbook. It takes a lot to get me on the bandwagon. Don't forget, Fenster, I was neck and neck with Bomp and probably you for first one time in the prediction contest before forgetting to put in picks for the final week due to a busy week at work

[Bomp]

When I can tell by watching them that that's what they are, I do. Let's look back in five years and see what Jean Pascal's record looks like. It will be filled with losses to guys like Froch, Andre Dirrell, Andre Ward, etc if he sticks around the game that long.

Thus, when I see Froch matched against Pascal, though they both undefeated, I know that Pascal is nothing better than a journeyman-type, opponent-type fighter, and Froch, in spite of his pitiful opposition to date, has actual talent. The jury is still out on how high Froch will go, but time is running out on him.

You are pretty good judge of talent, Fenster. I give you credit for being able to tell the difference between a real prospect and a paper prospect by using your eyes. I know there are plenty of guys you have seen who are undefeated and young, but they are nothing more than average. Perhaps he's not a "journeyman" yet, but that's this future. If you rate Pascal any better, it's just because you love Froch and want this win to mean more than it does.

Me love Froch

On this site, ive been a critic of his from DAY ONE. Ive always predicted he would FAIL at the very top. And still do. Ive already stated Kessler will "slaughter" him and he'd start underdog against Bute, Taylor (slight) and be 50/50 with Bika and Andrade.

I give credit where it's due though. And have no problem admitting when i'm wrong.

Pascal was a decorated amatuer, unbeaten and ranked no.3 by the WBC. Considering Froch had never fought anyone above Brit/Euro level, Pascal was a leap in class for him - which he passed.

You're clearly a far harsher, more confident judge of unbeaten prospects than me. I'm more inclined to give someone the benefit of doubt.. ESPECIALLY before they've lost

We agree more than we disagree. I had no idea about Pascal amatuer pedigree. I'm going based on seeing him fight a few times and somewhat by looking at his record. When they were building him up to fight Miranda and he was calling out Miranda, I was thinking, you gotta be kidding me. Miranda will murder this guy.

Perhaps I'm being a little hard on Pascal. He was a necessary step up for him, but it was a test I full expected him to pass. I'm not sure if Froch is worse than I thought or Pascal is a little better.

I am a pretty harsh judge of prospects, actually, but I think I have a good eye, in spite of a rash of bad picks lately on the sportsbook. It takes a lot to get me on the bandwagon. Don't forget, Fenster, I was neck and neck with Bomp and probably you for first one time in the prediction contest before forgetting to put in picks for the final week due to a busy week at work

I remember that comp, I think Fenster won it. I WAS GUTTED
after storming through the field to first with a month to go I fucking picked Austin to KO Klitschko

[Fenster]

Me love Froch

On this site, ive been a critic of his from DAY ONE. Ive always predicted he would FAIL at the very top. And still do. Ive already stated Kessler will "slaughter" him and he'd start underdog against Bute, Taylor (slight) and be 50/50 with Bika and Andrade.

I give credit where it's due though. And have no problem admitting when i'm wrong.

Pascal was a decorated amatuer, unbeaten and ranked no.3 by the WBC. Considering Froch had never fought anyone above Brit/Euro level, Pascal was a leap in class for him - which he passed.

You're clearly a far harsher, more confident judge of unbeaten prospects than me. I'm more inclined to give someone the benefit of doubt.. ESPECIALLY before they've lost

We agree more than we disagree. I had no idea about Pascal amatuer pedigree. I'm going based on seeing him fight a few times and somewhat by looking at his record. When they were building him up to fight Miranda and he was calling out Miranda, I was thinking, you gotta be kidding me. Miranda will murder this guy.

Perhaps I'm being a little hard on Pascal. He was a necessary step up for him, but it was a test I full expected him to pass. I'm not sure if Froch is worse than I thought or Pascal is a little better.

I am a pretty harsh judge of prospects, actually, but I think I have a good eye, in spite of a rash of bad picks lately on the sportsbook. It takes a lot to get me on the bandwagon. Don't forget, Fenster, I was neck and neck with Bomp and probably you for first one time in the prediction contest before forgetting to put in picks for the final week due to a busy week at work

I remember that comp, I think Fenster won it. I WAS GUTTED
after storming through the field to first with a month to go I fucking picked Austin to KO Klitschko

Ha! I don't remember either of you ever being a challenge to my superior prediction skills. Cretins.

[Bomp]

We agree more than we disagree. I had no idea about Pascal amatuer pedigree. I'm going based on seeing him fight a few times and somewhat by looking at his record. When they were building him up to fight Miranda and he was calling out Miranda, I was thinking, you gotta be kidding me. Miranda will murder this guy.

Perhaps I'm being a little hard on Pascal. He was a necessary step up for him, but it was a test I full expected him to pass. I'm not sure if Froch is worse than I thought or Pascal is a little better.

I am a pretty harsh judge of prospects, actually, but I think I have a good eye, in spite of a rash of bad picks lately on the sportsbook. It takes a lot to get me on the bandwagon. Don't forget, Fenster, I was neck and neck with Bomp and probably you for first one time in the prediction contest before forgetting to put in picks for the final week due to a busy week at work

I remember that comp, I think Fenster won it. I WAS GUTTED
after storming through the field to first with a month to go I fucking picked Austin to KO Klitschko

Ha! I don't remember either of you ever being a challenge to my superior prediction skills. Cretins.

I'm not sure, but someone who was going well went awol in the competition I entered, It may have been you but am not sure.

Klitchko-Austin was one of the picks i made after i lost my (brief) lead, as a try to catch up putting joker on it as well (fucking apt name).

[Tam Seddon]

Jermain Taylor Wants a Piece of Carl Froch in 2009 - Boxing News

Taylor MIGHT be interested in this one according to this source. I think it would be an awesome fight and carl would be able to show the US what hes made of.