When Homework Gets too Much

[Trainer Monkey]

I don't see how the food they eat in Kenya is more difficult than materials used in the shuttle. I'm not trying to say that I had it bad, but I think looking up the food that is eaten in Kenya on google and then telling the class what was read is pretty easy even by 2nd grade standards.

FOODS OF THE KENYANS
Staple foods consist mainly of corn, maize, potatoes, and beans. Ugali (a porridge made of maize) and meat are typically eaten inland, while the coastal peoples eat a more varied diet.
The Maasai, cattle-herding peoples who live in Kenya and Tanzania, eat simple foods, relying on cow and goat by-products (such as the animal's meat and milk). The Maasai do not eat any wild game or fish, depending only on the livestock they raise for food.
The Kikuyu and Gikuyu grow corn, beans, potatoes, and greens. They mash all of these vegetables together to make irio. They roll irio into balls and dip them into meat or vegetable stews.
In western Kenya, the people living near Lake Victoria (the second-largest freshwater lake in the world) mainly prepare fish stews, vegetable dishes, and rice.

found at..... Food in Kenya

Different site then I found
But i worry about pushing the kids too hard,and not getting legitimate understanding.
Yeah,I can have him google something,or do it for him,but does he actually UNDERSTAND the information.
We're talking a difference between rote repetition,which even a parrot can do,and cognetive understanding of the information at hand

Surely he can understand corn, potatoes and beans. I think you are making this much more complicated than it is. Surely, this assignment is to teach him communication and research skills as opposed to the subject matter.

Theres more to it then just recipes,apparently theres traditional presentation
Now I have an attitude,if he's going to do something,do it right,there's no point in being adequate.Adequate people exist to fill factories,or ask if you want fries with that.
To do such a report correctly,and ask any of my fighters Im a facist for doing things correctly,he should be at least in the 4th grade.
I was like that as a printer,which was why Im the best ink mixer youve ever seen,Im like that as a trainer,I firmly believe that doing anything good enough is doing it half assed,and that means your down half an ass.

[killersheep]

Different site then I found
But i worry about pushing the kids too hard,and not getting legitimate understanding.
Yeah,I can have him google something,or do it for him,but does he actually UNDERSTAND the information.
We're talking a difference between rote repetition,which even a parrot can do,and cognetive understanding of the information at hand

Surely he can understand corn, potatoes and beans. I think you are making this much more complicated than it is. Surely, this assignment is to teach him communication and research skills as opposed to the subject matter.

Theres more to it then just recipes,apparently theres traditional presentation
Now I have an attitude,if he's going to do something,do it right,there's no point in being adequate.Adequate people exist to fill factories,or ask if you want fries with that.
To do such a report correctly,and ask any of my fighters Im a facist for doing things correctly,he should be at least in the 4th grade.
I was like that as a printer,which was why Im the best ink mixer youve ever seen,Im like that as a trainer,I firmly believe that doing anything good enough is doing it half assed,and that means your down half an ass.

I really don't understand your issue with this assignment, you said he was capable, you also said he had a high IQ, why would he have difficulty "doing it right". He's there to learn the concepts of research and communicating what he researched. Surely he's not being asked to do something different than his classmates.

[Trainer Monkey]

Surely he can understand corn, potatoes and beans. I think you are making this much more complicated than it is. Surely, this assignment is to teach him communication and research skills as opposed to the subject matter.

Theres more to it then just recipes,apparently theres traditional presentation
Now I have an attitude,if he's going to do something,do it right,there's no point in being adequate.Adequate people exist to fill factories,or ask if you want fries with that.
To do such a report correctly,and ask any of my fighters Im a facist for doing things correctly,he should be at least in the 4th grade.
I was like that as a printer,which was why Im the best ink mixer youve ever seen,Im like that as a trainer,I firmly believe that doing anything good enough is doing it half assed,and that means your down half an ass.

I really don't understand your issue with this assignment, you said he was capable, you also said he had a high IQ, why would he have difficulty "doing it right". He's there to learn the concepts of research and communicating what he researched. Surely he's not being asked to do something different than his classmates.

Actually he is,he scored the most difficult of the assignments,and learning should have a level of joy to it
Handing him something like that,is going to come across as almost punitive in his mind for doing well

[Trainer Monkey]

And as sure as dark follows day,what did he do today,acted out in class because he was po'ed at his teachers

[killersheep]

Theres more to it then just recipes,apparently theres traditional presentation
Now I have an attitude,if he's going to do something,do it right,there's no point in being adequate.Adequate people exist to fill factories,or ask if you want fries with that.
To do such a report correctly,and ask any of my fighters Im a facist for doing things correctly,he should be at least in the 4th grade.
I was like that as a printer,which was why Im the best ink mixer youve ever seen,Im like that as a trainer,I firmly believe that doing anything good enough is doing it half assed,and that means your down half an ass.

I really don't understand your issue with this assignment, you said he was capable, you also said he had a high IQ, why would he have difficulty "doing it right". He's there to learn the concepts of research and communicating what he researched. Surely he's not being asked to do something different than his classmates.

Actually he is,he scored the most difficult of the assignments,and learning should have a level of joy to it
Handing him something like that,is going to come across as almost punitive in his mind for doing well

What does joy have to do with the school system or the assignment? Students of all ages and skill levels have to do work they find punitive. Ultimately you're just complaining and making excuses here. He has the material (posted on this thread). He has the capability to complete this assignment. He is able to perform at a higher level (which is what you require, so he is not just adequate). With all that being said, it is ultimately coming down to your doubts in his abilities at his age. Have some faith in your son that he can do this and do it well. He will also reflect your doubts in the teachers by acting out in class, you need to work together with his teacher not against them, or you will just see more lashing out and poorer performance in school.

[Trainer Monkey]

I really don't understand your issue with this assignment, you said he was capable, you also said he had a high IQ, why would he have difficulty "doing it right". He's there to learn the concepts of research and communicating what he researched. Surely he's not being asked to do something different than his classmates.

Actually he is,he scored the most difficult of the assignments,and learning should have a level of joy to it
Handing him something like that,is going to come across as almost punitive in his mind for doing well

What does joy have to do with the school system or the assignment? Students of all ages and skill levels have to do work they find punitive. Ultimately you're just complaining and making excuses here. He has the material (posted on this thread). He has the capability to complete this assignment. He is able to perform at a higher level (which is what you require, so he is not just adequate). With all that being said, it is ultimately coming down to your doubts in his abilities at his age. Have some faith in your son that he can do this and do it well. He will also reflect your doubts in the teachers by acting out in class, you need to work together with his teacher not against them, or you will just see more lashing out and poorer performance in school.

Why?
My grandather could even make punitive learning assignments seem interesting.
My main worry as far as he goes,is his handwriting is allmost as bad as mine,and the presentation has to be in his hand writing.
Now frankly Im being a dick about it,because I want him to take his own notes,and then write it with his own voice.
I'll help him with pronunciation,but thats just about it,maybe other parents run their show different,but if he gets an assignment its his assignment.y job is to make sure he does it,not do it for him.

[killersheep]

Actually he is,he scored the most difficult of the assignments,and learning should have a level of joy to it
Handing him something like that,is going to come across as almost punitive in his mind for doing well

What does joy have to do with the school system or the assignment? Students of all ages and skill levels have to do work they find punitive. Ultimately you're just complaining and making excuses here. He has the material (posted on this thread). He has the capability to complete this assignment. He is able to perform at a higher level (which is what you require, so he is not just adequate). With all that being said, it is ultimately coming down to your doubts in his abilities at his age. Have some faith in your son that he can do this and do it well. He will also reflect your doubts in the teachers by acting out in class, you need to work together with his teacher not against them, or you will just see more lashing out and poorer performance in school.

Why?
My grandather could even make punitive learning assignments seem interesting.
My main worry as far as he goes,is his handwriting is allmost as bad as mine,and the presentation has to be in his hand writing.
Now frankly Im being a dick about it,because I want him to take his own notes,and then write it with his own voice.
I'll help him with pronunciation,but thats just about it,maybe other parents run their show different,but if he gets an assignment its his assignment.y job is to make sure he does it,not do it for him.

I don't understand your argument here. You have clearly stated he has the capability to do this. Second graders as a rule of thumb have bad handwriting, I doubt very seriously that this is the issue, as that would be expected.

[Trainer Monkey]

What does joy have to do with the school system or the assignment? Students of all ages and skill levels have to do work they find punitive. Ultimately you're just complaining and making excuses here. He has the material (posted on this thread). He has the capability to complete this assignment. He is able to perform at a higher level (which is what you require, so he is not just adequate). With all that being said, it is ultimately coming down to your doubts in his abilities at his age. Have some faith in your son that he can do this and do it well. He will also reflect your doubts in the teachers by acting out in class, you need to work together with his teacher not against them, or you will just see more lashing out and poorer performance in school.

Why?
My grandather could even make punitive learning assignments seem interesting.
My main worry as far as he goes,is his handwriting is allmost as bad as mine,and the presentation has to be in his hand writing.
Now frankly Im being a dick about it,because I want him to take his own notes,and then write it with his own voice.
I'll help him with pronunciation,but thats just about it,maybe other parents run their show different,but if he gets an assignment its his assignment.y job is to make sure he does it,not do it for him.

I don't understand your argument here. You have clearly stated he has the capability to do this. Second graders as a rule of thumb have bad handwriting, I doubt very seriously that this is the issue, as that would be expected.

Its a very serious issue,you want to keep learning fun,not make it feel punitive.
A kid who feels like learning is a punishment,is a kid who stops wanting to do it.