Fast southpaw Zab Judah had early success in his fight with PBF... I think PAC can duplicate that and sustain it to the later rounds...
I pick PAC to win this one...
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Fast southpaw Zab Judah had early success in his fight with PBF... I think PAC can duplicate that and sustain it to the later rounds...
I pick PAC to win this one...
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I thought about that too but then again Pac has has improved. He's no longer a guy that only had a straight left and all he did was charge his opponents. When he fought Morales for the first time that is pretty much all he had. The charge attack with his left straight. All Morales had to do was step to the side and counter. No wonder the whole crowd in that arena was going "Oooooleeeeeee" like a matador does with a bull by stepping to the side when the bull charges. Second fight Morales admits he thought the first fight was boring and decided to exchange punches with Pac, bad idea.imo PBF would figure Pac out pretty soon and outbox him, similarily to how Morales did in fight 1.
This kind of things happen when a young prospect beats a big name opponent who's old, worned-out, and on his way out. Fans see their guy as the closest thing to god forgetting that that big name was old, worned-out, on his way out, etc. Even Pac and his team knew this.
I don't think any Pac fan would dare themselves to say they can see Pac loosing vs X guyI pick PAC to win this one....
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i always enjoy hearing all your "fantasy predictions" guys. It has always been ACCURATE. Like the Dela Hoya vs. Pacquiao fight.
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I know, but we that is not the only miss-match in boxing history. We have seen Camacho vs Leonard, Tyson vs McBride, Ali vs Berbick, De La Hoya vs Chavez, and now Pac vs De La Hoya. So yeah, young guys facing old worned-out drained guys IS A MITMATCH, I totally agree with you and other Pac fanshahaha so sweet..the previous fight should have dubbed as THE DREAM Miss-MATCH lol. Pac already faced a young guy in his prime that beat him twice: Marquez.
It's good to see lots of passionate Pac fans out there but I just hope that if Pac looses nobody commits suicide.
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LOL. I know you're a hater Chino. You just can't admit it.
Then you'd say, "I don't hate PAc... I Just hate his pac fans....."
You know we are decent and would always be decent regarding our love for Pac. You're putting us in a bad picture always as if we're crazy about Pac. I just know that you're still hating us after you were proven wrong with your predictions against our country man.
LOL. Grow old Chino. Reading your posts makes me conclude that you're a hater. I know you're mexican and you would always support your fighter just as we do. PAcquaio KOed Marquez how many times and it seems you're forgetting that. First fight was a draw and the second fight clearly goes to Pac. Let it be that way coz that's how it was judged.
Don't be a cry baby calling the DLH-Pac fight a mismatch in favor of Pac coz majority of us here was calling it a mismatch in favor of ODLH.
Can't you see my sigi? It was because I had a bet with Danny and I chose DLH to win that fight.... and I am the #1 pac fan here.
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Pacs win over ODLH was a great achievment, it is almost ridiculous that a guy who started at 109 and fought at 130 only a few months ago could beat an ATG at 147 and a former alphabet 160 champ. It is arguably the best win of the last few years on paper. But in reality maybe it is not. I like Pac as a fighter, he is clearly the number 1 P4P active fighter at the moment. But if im being honest after watching the fight ODLH had nothing. In fact i think any 147 fighter in the top 20 could have fought better than him, especially a young hungry guy. I think guys like Judah, Quintana, even Alfonso Gomez could have done as well as Oscar. Atleast they would have fought back a little and maybe attempted to use their size to rough up Pac a little.
I guess what im trying to say is that Pac's win altho great is not maybe as good as it seems on paper. In fact i think his last win over JMM is more impressive. His wins over Morales and Barrera were too.
Just cos he beat DLH dont mean he'll beat Floyd or even really have any greater chance than he did before. I think his best chance is if PBF has become rusty, or takes him too easy. If he did fight Hatton first and beat him then I may become a little nervous in my prediction.
But for now i think if Pac and PBF fought in the next year or so FLoyd would win a close tactical UD. If im wrong i wont mind and i'll be happy to eat my words.
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Thats an easy one.. Floyd figured Zab out and whooped his ass the rest of the way.. Along with Bhop Mayweather is the smartest fighter out there, Just like Zab and everyone else Mayweather has fought, got figured out Manny is no different.. Fighting an old slow plotting Oscar who just followed Manny around the ring tells us nothing about how Pac would do against Mayweather.. Believe me if Oscar fought Floyd at 147 and came in lighter than him, Mayweather would have busted him up like he did Gatti, Oscar was Flat out of the gate and had 0 energy or fire
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ODLH vs Mayweather?...Yes, I think it was. I never saw Mayweather completely dominating and totally destroying ODLH as many say. Didn't see ODLH connecting as much as other fights either. Both fought cautiously. I think it has a lot to do that people simply don't like him. So far, I'll say Castillo and ODLH have given Mayweather his biggest challenges.i was talkin about the floyd fight. did u think that was close?
Yes, go on people, throw tomatoes at me :P .
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Floyd Mayweather said Emanuel Augustus was his toughest fight at that time, which it probably was. But that was before he fought Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, ETC. Which were way tougher fights, the Emanuel Burton fight wasn't that tough.
I've seen it many times and except for the punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose. I just see Emanuel Augustus get dominated mostly, i didn't see him give Floyd Mayweather that many problems, although it was still a very brave effort from Emanuel Augustus.
As for Chino's comments i don't see any problem at all with what he has said. ODLH wasn't dominated in the Floyd Mayweather fight he is right about that. I had Floyd Mayweather winning by 3 or 4 rounds, but after 9 rounds it was pretty close, until Floyd Mayweather took over in the later rounds.
But i still think ODLH was somewhat effective with his jab, but he stopped using it because he got tired, which didn't help with the way Floyd Mayweather was making him miss. You expend alot more energy when you miss big power punches, and it was also due to Floyd Mayweather countering ODLH, over his jab with perfect right hands, which did stun him a few times. Which also made him think twice about throwing it.
And he is right about ODLH's performance it was a very poor performance, it was probably the worst i've seen ODLH since the Felix Sturm fight. But i still think it was due to him being weight drained and ETC. Remember its been almost a decade since he fought at Welterweight. So i do disagree with you slightly Chino. I don't think he is a finished fighter at all.
I think if he comeback at Jr Middleweight he would still be a force. But i would rather him retire now, i just think people are being unfair to Chino IMO. He has gave Manny Pacquiao credit and i also give Manny Pacquiao a hell of alot of credit, Manny Pacquiao fought an amazing fight. But that still doesn't mean we can't comment on how bad ODLH looked, and he did look pretty bad IMO.
But Manny Pacquiao done more than enough of what was asked of him, and thats dominate and stop ODLH. He couldn't of done it any more impressively, and i think he should stay between 135-140 from now on i think thats a perfect weight range for him and theres so many good fights to be made. Nate Campbell, JMM, Ricky Hatton, Joan Guzman, ETC. I think he should only fight at Welterweight again if he gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather, because there size difference isn't that much at all.
Last edited by ICB; 12-20-2008 at 04:14 AM.
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