Mayweather vs Pac

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i was talkin about the floyd fight. did u think that was close?

ODLH vs Mayweather?...Yes, I think it was. I never saw Mayweather completely dominating and totally destroying ODLH as many say. Didn't see ODLH connecting as much as other fights either. Both fought cautiously. I think it has a lot to do that people simply don't like him. So far, I'll say Castillo and ODLH have given Mayweather his biggest challenges.

Yes, go on people, throw tomatoes at me :P .

he dominated by making Oscar miss damn near everyshot if that counts. but Oscar got undeserved rounds IMO. i also heard Mayweather said himself that Agustus was the hardest fight he ever had.

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i was talkin about the floyd fight. did u think that was close?

ODLH vs Mayweather?...Yes, I think it was. I never saw Mayweather completely dominating and totally destroying ODLH as many say. Didn't see ODLH connecting as much as other fights either. Both fought cautiously. I think it has a lot to do that people simply don't like him. So far, I'll say Castillo and ODLH have given Mayweather his biggest challenges.

Yes, go on people, throw tomatoes at me :P .

he dominated by making Oscar miss damn near everyshot if that counts. but Oscar got undeserved rounds IMO. i also heard Mayweather said himself that Agustus was the hardest fight he ever had.

Floyd Mayweather said Emanuel Augustus was his toughest fight at that time, which it probably was. But that was before he fought Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, ETC. Which were way tougher fights, the Emanuel Burton fight wasn't that tough.

I've seen it many times and except for the punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose. I just see Emanuel Augustus get dominated mostly, i didn't see him give Floyd Mayweather that many problems, although it was still a very brave effort from Emanuel Augustus.

As for Chino's comments i don't see any problem at all with what he has said. ODLH wasn't dominated in the Floyd Mayweather fight he is right about that. I had Floyd Mayweather winning by 3 or 4 rounds, but after 9 rounds it was pretty close, until Floyd Mayweather took over in the later rounds.

But i still think ODLH was somewhat effective with his jab, but he stopped using it because he got tired, which didn't help with the way Floyd Mayweather was making him miss. You expend alot more energy when you miss big power punches, and it was also due to Floyd Mayweather countering ODLH, over his jab with perfect right hands, which did stun him a few times. Which also made him think twice about throwing it.

And he is right about ODLH's performance it was a very poor performance, it was probably the worst i've seen ODLH since the Felix Sturm fight. But i still think it was due to him being weight drained and ETC. Remember its been almost a decade since he fought at Welterweight. So i do disagree with you slightly Chino. I don't think he is a finished fighter at all.

I think if he comeback at Jr Middleweight he would still be a force. But i would rather him retire now, i just think people are being unfair to Chino IMO. He has gave Manny Pacquiao credit and i also give Manny Pacquiao a hell of alot of credit, Manny Pacquiao fought an amazing fight. But that still doesn't mean we can't comment on how bad ODLH looked, and he did look pretty bad IMO.

But Manny Pacquiao done more than enough of what was asked of him, and thats dominate and stop ODLH. He couldn't of done it any more impressively, and i think he should stay between 135-140 from now on i think thats a perfect weight range for him and theres so many good fights to be made. Nate Campbell, JMM, Ricky Hatton, Joan Guzman, ETC. I think he should only fight at Welterweight again if he gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather, because there size difference isn't that much at all.

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ODLH vs Mayweather?...Yes, I think it was. I never saw Mayweather completely dominating and totally destroying ODLH as many say. Didn't see ODLH connecting as much as other fights either. Both fought cautiously. I think it has a lot to do that people simply don't like him. So far, I'll say Castillo and ODLH have given Mayweather his biggest challenges.

Yes, go on people, throw tomatoes at me :P .

he dominated by making Oscar miss damn near everyshot if that counts. but Oscar got undeserved rounds IMO. i also heard Mayweather said himself that Agustus was the hardest fight he ever had.

Floyd Mayweather said Emanuel Augustus was his toughest fight at that time, which it probably was. But that was before he fought Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, ETC. Which were way tougher fights, the Emanuel Burton fight wasn't that tough.

I've seen it many times and except for the punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose. I just see Emanuel Augustus get dominated mostly, i didn't see him give Floyd Mayweather that many problems, although it was still a very brave effort from Emanuel Augustus.

As for Chino's comments i don't see any problem at all with what he has said. ODLH wasn't dominated in the Floyd Mayweather fight he is right about that. I had Floyd Mayweather winning by 3 or 4 rounds, but after 9 rounds it was pretty close, until Floyd Mayweather took over in the later rounds.

But i still think ODLH was somewhat effective with his jab, but he stopped using it because he got tired, which didn't help with the way Floyd Mayweather was making him miss. You expend alot more energy when you miss big power punches, and it was also due to Floyd Mayweather countering ODLH, over his jab with perfect right hands, which did stun him a few times. Which also made him think twice about throwing it.

And he is right about ODLH's performance it was a very poor performance, it was probably the worst i've seen ODLH since the Felix Sturm fight. But i still think it was due to him being weight drained and ETC. Remember its been almost a decade since he fought at Welterweight. So i do disagree with you slightly Chino. I don't think he is a finished fighter at all.

I think if he comeback at Jr Middleweight he would still be a force. But i would rather him retire now, i just think people are being unfair to Chino IMO. He has gave Manny Pacquiao credit and i also give Manny Pacquiao a hell of alot of credit, Manny Pacquiao fought an amazing fight. But that still doesn't mean we can't comment on how bad ODLH looked, and he did look pretty bad IMO.

But Manny Pacquiao done more than enough of what was asked of him, and thats dominate and stop ODLH. He couldn't of done it any more impressively, and i think he should stay between 135-140 from now on i think thats a perfect weight range for him and theres so many good fights to be made. Nate Campbell, JMM, Ricky Hatton, Joan Guzman, ETC. I think he should only fight at Welterweight again if he gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather, because there size difference isn't that much at all.

Nice post ICE!

Again, I posted this earlier on in the thread, I think people are just misunderstanding Chino. What is he saying that is striking a nerve?

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ODLH vs Mayweather?...Yes, I think it was. I never saw Mayweather completely dominating and totally destroying ODLH as many say. Didn't see ODLH connecting as much as other fights either. Both fought cautiously. I think it has a lot to do that people simply don't like him. So far, I'll say Castillo and ODLH have given Mayweather his biggest challenges.

Yes, go on people, throw tomatoes at me :P .

he dominated by making Oscar miss damn near everyshot if that counts. but Oscar got undeserved rounds IMO. i also heard Mayweather said himself that Agustus was the hardest fight he ever had.

Floyd Mayweather said Emanuel Augustus was his toughest fight at that time, which it probably was. But that was before he fought Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, ETC. Which were way tougher fights, the Emanuel Burton fight wasn't that tough.

I've seen it many times and except for the punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose. I just see Emanuel Augustus get dominated mostly, i didn't see him give Floyd Mayweather that many problems, although it was still a very brave effort from Emanuel Augustus.

As for Chino's comments i don't see any problem at all with what he has said. ODLH wasn't dominated in the Floyd Mayweather fight he is right about that. I had Floyd Mayweather winning by 3 or 4 rounds, but after 9 rounds it was pretty close, until Floyd Mayweather took over in the later rounds.

But i still think ODLH was somewhat effective with his jab, but he stopped using it because he got tired, which didn't help with the way Floyd Mayweather was making him miss. You expend alot more energy when you miss big power punches, and it was also due to Floyd Mayweather countering ODLH, over his jab with perfect right hands, which did stun him a few times. Which also made him think twice about throwing it.

And he is right about ODLH's performance it was a very poor performance, it was probably the worst i've seen ODLH since the Felix Sturm fight. But i still think it was due to him being weight drained and ETC. Remember its been almost a decade since he fought at Welterweight. So i do disagree with you slightly Chino. I don't think he is a finished fighter at all.

I think if he comeback at Jr Middleweight he would still be a force. But i would rather him retire now, i just think people are being unfair to Chino IMO. He has gave Manny Pacquiao credit and i also give Manny Pacquiao a hell of alot of credit, Manny Pacquiao fought an amazing fight. But that still doesn't mean we can't comment on how bad ODLH looked, and he did look pretty bad IMO.

But Manny Pacquiao done more than enough of what was asked of him, and thats dominate and stop ODLH. He couldn't of done it any more impressively, and i think he should stay between 135-140 from now on i think thats a perfect weight range for him and theres so many good fights to be made. Nate Campbell, JMM, Ricky Hatton, Joan Guzman, ETC. I think he should only fight at Welterweight again if he gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather, because there size difference isn't that much at all.

naaa ICE i actually heard this when the last time he was on ESPN and they asked him about Cotto too.

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he dominated by making Oscar miss damn near everyshot if that counts. but Oscar got undeserved rounds IMO. i also heard Mayweather said himself that Agustus was the hardest fight he ever had.

Floyd Mayweather said Emanuel Augustus was his toughest fight at that time, which it probably was. But that was before he fought Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, ETC. Which were way tougher fights, the Emanuel Burton fight wasn't that tough.

I've seen it many times and except for the punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose. I just see Emanuel Augustus get dominated mostly, i didn't see him give Floyd Mayweather that many problems, although it was still a very brave effort from Emanuel Augustus.

As for Chino's comments i don't see any problem at all with what he has said. ODLH wasn't dominated in the Floyd Mayweather fight he is right about that. I had Floyd Mayweather winning by 3 or 4 rounds, but after 9 rounds it was pretty close, until Floyd Mayweather took over in the later rounds.

But i still think ODLH was somewhat effective with his jab, but he stopped using it because he got tired, which didn't help with the way Floyd Mayweather was making him miss. You expend alot more energy when you miss big power punches, and it was also due to Floyd Mayweather countering ODLH, over his jab with perfect right hands, which did stun him a few times. Which also made him think twice about throwing it.

And he is right about ODLH's performance it was a very poor performance, it was probably the worst i've seen ODLH since the Felix Sturm fight. But i still think it was due to him being weight drained and ETC. Remember its been almost a decade since he fought at Welterweight. So i do disagree with you slightly Chino. I don't think he is a finished fighter at all.

I think if he comeback at Jr Middleweight he would still be a force. But i would rather him retire now, i just think people are being unfair to Chino IMO. He has gave Manny Pacquiao credit and i also give Manny Pacquiao a hell of alot of credit, Manny Pacquiao fought an amazing fight. But that still doesn't mean we can't comment on how bad ODLH looked, and he did look pretty bad IMO.

But Manny Pacquiao done more than enough of what was asked of him, and thats dominate and stop ODLH. He couldn't of done it any more impressively, and i think he should stay between 135-140 from now on i think thats a perfect weight range for him and theres so many good fights to be made. Nate Campbell, JMM, Ricky Hatton, Joan Guzman, ETC. I think he should only fight at Welterweight again if he gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather, because there size difference isn't that much at all.

naaa ICE i actually heard this when the last time he was on ESPN and they asked him about Cotto too.

Maybe it was the most he was hurt because he got a broken nose, in the Emanuel Augustus fight, but despite the punch that broke his nose. Believe me all you have to do is watch the fight to know it wasn't nowhere near as tough as his fights against Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez, ETC.

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Floyd Mayweather said Emanuel Augustus was his toughest fight at that time, which it probably was. But that was before he fought Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, ETC. Which were way tougher fights, the Emanuel Burton fight wasn't that tough.

I've seen it many times and except for the punch that broke Floyd Mayweather's nose. I just see Emanuel Augustus get dominated mostly, i didn't see him give Floyd Mayweather that many problems, although it was still a very brave effort from Emanuel Augustus.

As for Chino's comments i don't see any problem at all with what he has said. ODLH wasn't dominated in the Floyd Mayweather fight he is right about that. I had Floyd Mayweather winning by 3 or 4 rounds, but after 9 rounds it was pretty close, until Floyd Mayweather took over in the later rounds.

But i still think ODLH was somewhat effective with his jab, but he stopped using it because he got tired, which didn't help with the way Floyd Mayweather was making him miss. You expend alot more energy when you miss big power punches, and it was also due to Floyd Mayweather countering ODLH, over his jab with perfect right hands, which did stun him a few times. Which also made him think twice about throwing it.

And he is right about ODLH's performance it was a very poor performance, it was probably the worst i've seen ODLH since the Felix Sturm fight. But i still think it was due to him being weight drained and ETC. Remember its been almost a decade since he fought at Welterweight. So i do disagree with you slightly Chino. I don't think he is a finished fighter at all.

I think if he comeback at Jr Middleweight he would still be a force. But i would rather him retire now, i just think people are being unfair to Chino IMO. He has gave Manny Pacquiao credit and i also give Manny Pacquiao a hell of alot of credit, Manny Pacquiao fought an amazing fight. But that still doesn't mean we can't comment on how bad ODLH looked, and he did look pretty bad IMO.

But Manny Pacquiao done more than enough of what was asked of him, and thats dominate and stop ODLH. He couldn't of done it any more impressively, and i think he should stay between 135-140 from now on i think thats a perfect weight range for him and theres so many good fights to be made. Nate Campbell, JMM, Ricky Hatton, Joan Guzman, ETC. I think he should only fight at Welterweight again if he gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather, because there size difference isn't that much at all.

naaa ICE i actually heard this when the last time he was on ESPN and they asked him about Cotto too.

Maybe it was the most he was hurt because he got a broken nose, in the Emanuel Augustus fight, but despite the punch that broke his nose. Believe me all you have to do is watch the fight to know it wasn't nowhere near as tough as his fights against Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez, ETC.

i always considered Castillo his hardest fight but he said it himself that Agustus was his hardest he ever had. and i have seen the agustus fight i still say Castillo was his hardest ever.