Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
So you are arguing that Nigel Collins is "All knowing"?

You thing because "The Ring Magizine" sounds like they have a method which is fair and argue the others are unfair that "The Ring Magizine" is more valid. You obviously didn't put much thought into the meaning of the word "subjective". All Opinions are "subjective".

It doesn't matter "who" says it or what belt "A" Champion holds or doesn't hold. Opinions are not wrong! they are just opinions. Every argument can have valid points and be articulated so that they appear correct. Just because someone can argue better or shout louder doesn't mean they are right or wrong. It just means they have a different opinion.

By "your" argument "The Ring Magazine" does the exact same thing as the alphabets gangs. They only have an opinion not tangable proof.

Let us put "your" crazy argument into a current example: Saying that JMM is "The" World Lightweight Champion because of linage is simply absurd. He beat (1) fighter in the lightweight class. Who else did he beat in the Lightweight class? no one! He lost to MP and he never fought NC or YK . He has to beat every "Contender" and every "Champion" in the "Lightweight Weight Class" to "PROVE" and be "The" " Lightweight World Champion". The term "Linear Champion" has no more validity than does WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF or IBO. it just means that the followers of the respective organization "believe" that the Boxer at the top of their list is A "Champion".

The only way a Champion can be "World Champion" is to defeat all "Champions" and all "Contenders" otherwise his status as a Champion is "DISPUTED".

What really matters is that EVERYONE agrees. And ONLY then, will you have the "UNDISPUTED Champion of the World".
I dont think you understand the way boxing used to work. Along time a go before you were born, before the alphabet titles were payed attention to, there was 1 champion per weight class.

That champion was the man who beat the last champion. Boxing was huge, and it was mainstream sport in american. Just like everyone knew who won the superbowl or the world series champs were, every knew who the boxing champions were.

Then came the alphabet gangs to create numerous nonsense paper titles. Now no one knows who the champions are and boxing is at most, a niche sport.

The Ring is trying to bring back the old bright line rule about champions.

And although you seem fixated on Nigel Collins, he is only the editor. He only has a say, as do all the other expert journalist who determine the rankings.

This is a better option then you beloved alphabet gangs, which give out rankings, not based on merit, but sanctioning fees.