Oquendo got screwed and Toney is done

[Spicoli]

Fres Oquendo has now been on the end of two bad decisions, against the old legends Toney, Holyfield.

Have yet to watch the entire fight with Toney,I must be one of the few that thinks Holyfield beat him close but square .Now his loss To Chris Byrd was foul I thought.Had Chris all confused in there.

[Kirkland Laing]

I saw it on a choppy stream but he looks finished. I think if he's as bad next time out he'll retire. Toney is a great fighter who shouldn't be fighting anymore. I hope he doesn't need the money. What's his situation outside the ring? Has he got 15 kids or something?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Fres Oquendo has now been on the end of two bad decisions, against the old legends Toney, Holyfield.

Have yet to watch the entire fight with Toney,I must be one of the few that thinks Holyfield beat him close but square .Now his loss To Chris Byrd was foul I thought.Had Chris all confused in there.

I also thought that Holyfield beat Oquendo, that was basically my whole reasoning for giving Holyfield a slight, and by slight i mean veeeeeery small chance, but a chance anyways in beating Imbrogimov, and I also felt that Oquendo beat Byrd, so did Golota, and McCline.

[Gandalf]

First off, it was an awful fight to watch.

Toney definitely started the stronger but Oquendo undoubtedly "came on" down the stretch. I say came on like that because it was more a case of Toney doing nothing meaningful. It was a close fight, and Oquendo probably deserved the nod.

Toney had no output. Combinations were not there. His countering was ineffective. He would do too little for too long in the later rounds.

Toney usually gets stronger as the fight goes on. Here he had little left beyond the 9th. It was surprising and dissapointing to see. Maybe not so surprising considering the 2nd Peter fight, the supposedly lacklustre Toney of the Batchelder fight and after all the Rahman fight showed us only a couple of rounds. But it was disheartening to see as a Toney fan.

I dont think anybody is going to stop Toney, it could happen against the Klitschkos. But who knows. Anyway I have no desire to see a sloppy and out of condition James Toney continue to eke out pointless decisions against people who are not fit to even tie his laces.

Get the Thompson fight signed quickly. If James can actually shed 10 pounds and do some serious roadwork maybe he can surprise us again. But there have been too many false promises for too long, and its tiring. A focussed and ready Toney can beat Thompson. A lazy Toney loses a wide UD and his world stage is pretty much gone for good.

Toney messed up again here though, and I hope he knows it. I say give him a final shot against a top 10 contender and let him either put up or shut up for good.

[Spicoli]

Fres Oquendo has now been on the end of two bad decisions, against the old legends Toney, Holyfield.

Have yet to watch the entire fight with Toney,I must be one of the few that thinks Holyfield beat him close but square .Now his loss To Chris Byrd was foul I thought.Had Chris all confused in there.

I also thought that Holyfield beat Oquendo, that was basically my whole reasoning for giving Holyfield a slight, and by slight i mean veeeeeery small chance, but a chance anyways in beating Imbrogimov, and I also felt that Oquendo beat Byrd, so did Golota, and McCline.

That fight on rewatch was an even more s!!!!ty decision by three blind judges .I gave Byrd 4 rounds tops,very early & 2 rounds late but in between Oquendo had that odd Crisp jab,Fall forward then throw a hard one-two combo,It worked.... that was a robbery.Byrd has ecscaped a few.Toney should retire or change his name to Fred Sanford

[OumaFan]

It would really depress me if Toney kept fighting on and eventually got stopped. Nobody's unknockoutable (new word ) especially if you're shot.

Some of the shots he gets hit with now, he just didn't before, its clear as day.

[purtyboy]

I would love to see someone knock that piece of lard out. I hate Tony, he is thinks he is the best and can't back it up.

Keep in mind im a Hamed, Mayweather, Whitaker, Hopkins fan. Flamboyant, cockyness is cool, but their is just something I don't like about this guy....

[El Kabong]

It's a shame a fighter like Fres couldn't get a break...this would have been a huge win for him but they gave it to Toney who IMO looks worse than Tyson did when he fought Williams and McBride.

[Gandalf]

It's a shame a fighter like Fres couldn't get a break...this would have been a huge win for him but they gave it to Toney who IMO looks worse than Tyson did when he fought Williams and McBride.

At least Tyson managed to land meaningful blows in those fights. Toney struggled to impose anything upon Oquendo. Yep, the Toney rollercoaster may almost be up.

Like I say, I want to see him have a fight with Thompson just to confirm whether or not its over.

I cannot bring myself to sit through the Oquendo fight again. Just horrible to watch.