Boxrec RULES!!!!

[XaduBoxer]

Gotta love them having PAC #1 at 140 when he's never fought at that weight.

They will probably fight each other next so they belong to the same division and I think it will be at 140 division...

On PAC placed above Hatton on the 140 rankings, I think you can't deny that PAC's boxing record and accomplishments is way above Hatton's and now that they belong to the same division, it carries that PAC is ranked higher than Hatton...

It's not pretty but that's how some rankings orgs operate...
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[Spicoli]

Sorry SaddoBoxer but that is a load of shite!Overall accomplishments per division are one thing but it's not a crash a division free card supported by 'probably' and 'I thinks' against the best they have.There are always one too many jumps.No matter where they are 'ranked' at 140 I think Hatton is numero uno!
I can picture Kenny saying this HAHA,

Merry christmas

[XaduBoxer]

Sorry SaddoBoxer but that is a load of shite!Overall accomplishments per division are one thing but it's not a crash a division free card supported by 'probably' and 'I thinks' against the best they have.There are always one too many jumps.No matter where they are 'ranked' at 140 I think Hatton is numero uno!
I can picture Kenny saying this HAHA,

Merry christmas

Merry Xmas too lil' bro...

WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF, BoxRec, Fightnews, ABC, XYZ did ranked boxers even if they have not yet fought in a certain division... It's a fact...

I think (again), it's only Ring Mag who would not ranked a boxer if he has not fought in that division....
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[killersheep]

Gotta love them having PAC #1 at 140 when he's never fought at that weight.

They will probably fight each other next so they belong to the same division and I think it will be at 140 division...

On PAC placed above Hatton on the 140 rankings, I think you can't deny that PAC's boxing record and accomplishments is way above Hatton's and now that they belong to the same division, it carries that PAC is ranked higher than Hatton...

It's not pretty but that's how some rankings orgs operate...
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PAC has acheived nothing at 140 because he's never fought there. Perhaps instead of talking you should reread this thread. We are going to have to agree to disagree here because we fundamentally have differing opinions on what rankings should be.

I believe that rankings should reflect the current state of the game based on merit in the category heading (AKA facts), therefore I believe that rankings of Light Welter should reflect things that have happened at Light Welter.

You believe that a fighters ranking should be based on the opinion of how you THINK (AKA speculation) a fighter would do at a weight class. This makes no sense especially since it is not even definate (however likely it may seem) that PAC will even fight at 140.

To follow up with your bringing the alphabet soup into the mix, I have in fact written complaint letters to all the guilty parties, however I am not optimistic in getting a reply.

[XaduBoxer]

Gotta love them having PAC #1 at 140 when he's never fought at that weight.

They will probably fight each other next so they belong to the same division and I think it will be at 140 division...

On PAC placed above Hatton on the 140 rankings, I think you can't deny that PAC's boxing record and accomplishments is way above Hatton's and now that they belong to the same division, it carries that PAC is ranked higher than Hatton...

It's not pretty but that's how some rankings orgs operate...
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PAC has acheived nothing at 140 because he's never fought there. Perhaps instead of talking you should reread this thread. We are going to have to agree to disagree here because we fundamentally have differing opinions on what rankings should be.

I believe that rankings should reflect the current state of the game based on merit in the category heading (AKA facts), therefore I believe that rankings of Light Welter should reflect things that have happened at Light Welter.

You believe that a fighters ranking should be based on the opinion of how you THINK (AKA speculation) a fighter would do at a weight class. This makes no sense especially since it is not even definate (however likely it may seem) that PAC will even fight at 140.

To follow up with your bringing the alphabet soup into the mix, I have in fact written complaint letters to all the guilty parties, however I am not optimistic in getting a reply.

So you're a true believer in Ring Mag rankings, let's take it's rankings at 154. You don't have any problems with Paul Williams at #2 ahead of 154 long-time residents and current champs Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk? (BTW, I pick Santos or Dzindziruk to beat Williams at 154)

Jr. Middleweight
Limit: 154 pounds
1. Vernon Forrest
2. Paul Williams
3. Verno Phillips
4. Cory Spinks
5. Sergio Mora
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Sergei Dzindziruk
8. Daniel Santos
9. Joachim Alcine
10. James Kirkland
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[killersheep]

They will probably fight each other next so they belong to the same division and I think it will be at 140 division...

On PAC placed above Hatton on the 140 rankings, I think you can't deny that PAC's boxing record and accomplishments is way above Hatton's and now that they belong to the same division, it carries that PAC is ranked higher than Hatton...

It's not pretty but that's how some rankings orgs operate...
.

PAC has acheived nothing at 140 because he's never fought there. Perhaps instead of talking you should reread this thread. We are going to have to agree to disagree here because we fundamentally have differing opinions on what rankings should be.

I believe that rankings should reflect the current state of the game based on merit in the category heading (AKA facts), therefore I believe that rankings of Light Welter should reflect things that have happened at Light Welter.

You believe that a fighters ranking should be based on the opinion of how you THINK (AKA speculation) a fighter would do at a weight class. This makes no sense especially since it is not even definate (however likely it may seem) that PAC will even fight at 140.

To follow up with your bringing the alphabet soup into the mix, I have in fact written complaint letters to all the guilty parties, however I am not optimistic in getting a reply.

So you're a true believer in Ring Mag rankings, let's take it's rankings at 154. You don't have any problems with Paul Williams at #2 ahead of 154 long-time residents and current champs Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk? (I pick Santos or Dzindziruk to beat Williams at 154)

Jr. Middleweight
Limit: 154 pounds
1. Vernon Forrest
2. Paul Williams
3. Verno Phillips
4. Cory Spinks
5. Sergio Mora
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Sergei Dzindziruk
8. Daniel Santos
9. Joachim Alcine
10. James Kirkland
.

Well considering that Paul Williams BEAT the #2 ranked Verno Phillips I would say that's a fair assessment. His acheivement was merited by beating the man that held the rank. Next...............

[XaduBoxer]

PAC has acheived nothing at 140 because he's never fought there. Perhaps instead of talking you should reread this thread. We are going to have to agree to disagree here because we fundamentally have differing opinions on what rankings should be.

I believe that rankings should reflect the current state of the game based on merit in the category heading (AKA facts), therefore I believe that rankings of Light Welter should reflect things that have happened at Light Welter.

You believe that a fighters ranking should be based on the opinion of how you THINK (AKA speculation) a fighter would do at a weight class. This makes no sense especially since it is not even definate (however likely it may seem) that PAC will even fight at 140.

To follow up with your bringing the alphabet soup into the mix, I have in fact written complaint letters to all the guilty parties, however I am not optimistic in getting a reply.

So you're a true believer in Ring Mag rankings, let's take it's rankings at 154. You don't have any problems with Paul Williams at #2 ahead of 154 long-time residents and current champs Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk? (I pick Santos or Dzindziruk to beat Williams at 154)

Jr. Middleweight
Limit: 154 pounds
1. Vernon Forrest
2. Paul Williams
3. Verno Phillips
4. Cory Spinks
5. Sergio Mora
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Sergei Dzindziruk
8. Daniel Santos
9. Joachim Alcine
10. James Kirkland
.

Well considering that Paul Williams BEAT the #2 ranked Verno Phillips I would say that's a fair assessment. His acheivement was merited by beating the man that held the rank. Next...............

LOL ... Even Team Hatton acknowledged that Pacquiao is the man...

"Manny is the man and if you want to fight the man they have got the whip hand."

I'm not sure why you can't accept that PAC is greater than Hatton including at 140... LOL...
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[killersheep]

So you're a true believer in Ring Mag rankings, let's take it's rankings at 154. You don't have any problems with Paul Williams at #2 ahead of 154 long-time residents and current champs Daniel Santos and Sergei Dzindziruk? (I pick Santos or Dzindziruk to beat Williams at 154)

Jr. Middleweight
Limit: 154 pounds
1. Vernon Forrest
2. Paul Williams
3. Verno Phillips
4. Cory Spinks
5. Sergio Mora
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Sergei Dzindziruk
8. Daniel Santos
9. Joachim Alcine
10. James Kirkland
.

Well considering that Paul Williams BEAT the #2 ranked Verno Phillips I would say that's a fair assessment. His acheivement was merited by beating the man that held the rank. Next...............

LOL ... Even Team Hatton acknowledged that Pacquiao is the man...

"Manny is the man and if you want to fight the man they have got the whip hand."

I'm not sure why you can't accept that PAC is greater than Hatton including at 140... LOL...
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No source and out of context as expected. I will not acknowledge PAC has done anything at 140 until he does something at 140.

[XaduBoxer]

Well considering that Paul Williams BEAT the #2 ranked Verno Phillips I would say that's a fair assessment. His acheivement was merited by beating the man that held the rank. Next...............

LOL ... Even Team Hatton acknowledged that Pacquiao is the man...

"Manny is the man and if you want to fight the man they have got the whip hand."

I'm not sure why you can't accept that PAC is greater than Hatton including at 140... LOL...
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No source and out of context as expected. I will not acknowledge PAC has done anything at 140 until he does something at 140.

Ohh you're still sticking to your 140 argument... Since you're a believer of Ring Mag, PAC is ranked at #5 at 147 and ranked #2 at 135 at the same time, it means PAC has done everything from 135 to 147 according to Ring Mag... 140 is just but in between 135 and 147...

BTW, the source (link) of Team Hatton accepting that PAC is the man :

Daily Star: Simply The Best 7 Days A Week :: In The Ring :: £20m Hart pay Pacq-et

[Spicoli]

What a carnival barker.......Of course Hatton is talking it up.You know allll about hype huh?Point was made and stole my thunder...Lil Bro....Williams more accomplished with his victory over credible champion in Phillips off his own upset.Manny beat a partner last and at 140 has never been.