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    Hey if they want us to go away then just give us all the oil and we'll leave you alone....without oil the Middle East is nothing
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    Oh but Andre who are WE to tell people how to run their culture If they want to throw acid on girls going to school and stone to death rape victims then who are we too try and keep them from doing so?



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    Exactly,you have to stand up for the innocent.

    Trouble is we take them out right along with the leaders through economy of war fare and that is wrong you cant excuse that anyway you try to and when some try to in terms of money and time its even worse.

    Hiroshima Nagasaki was a them or us situation and justified as the only means to that end; cause the Japs would of just kept comming but Iraq wasnt and isnt a threat to us but was made out to be for the grand excuse so we the tax payers can sleep with an easier consiouss and not vote the murdering pricks out.

    We sold them the weapons that we said were weapons of mass destruction. We knew wee out gunned them cause that was all our old stuff.
    Yeah if they fought an unarmed Barcelonia population ,maybe they did have weapons of mass destruction, but seriously,"fuk the general public, theirs and ours, this is business".
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    Iraq was a threat to the allies of the US and to innocent people in that very country...NO we shouldn't have gone in there, however, we DID take out Saddam so right now we OWN the problem that is Iraq.


    The Afghanistan situation IMO deserved TOTAL WAR....if you're a safe haven for people like Bin Laden then there should be merciless bombings of the entire country a scale that Russia didn't even go to. Men, women, children.....no one should have been safe there, they EARNED an old school beat down. We should have bombed them into oblivian and then salted the Earth so nothing would ever grow there ever again. But that's just how I feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Iraq was a threat to the allies of the US and to innocent people in that very country...NO we shouldn't have gone in there, however, we DID take out Saddam so right now we OWN the problem that is Iraq.


    The Afghanistan situation IMO deserved TOTAL WAR....if you're a safe haven for people like Bin Laden then there should be merciless bombings of the entire country a scale that Russia didn't even go to. Men, women, children.....no one should have been safe there, they EARNED an old school beat down. We should have bombed them into oblivian and then salted the Earth so nothing would ever grow there ever again. But that's just how I feel
    In what way was Iraq a threat to America or its dictatorship allies?

    If a substantial number of Americans hadn't bought the bs and dutifully wet the bed over the clear and present threat Saddam posed to them there'd have been no way Bush could have got his oil war on.

    Afghanistan is another war Bush started, claimed victory and then lost.

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    Well #1 Saddam didn't recognize the terms of the treaty of the Persian Gulf War which sad to say was a VALID reason for war but we heard the same shit the UN has been spewing since it was created "Give sanctions more time"....I think that is their fucking motto! #2 He had his eyes on Kuwait before and seeing how he still had an army well it was only a matter of time.


    Kirkland we ARE the nice and innocent party, we are willing to pay them a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money for their product and they are living in the fucking stone age. OUR culture is the better culture and I say that knowing full well we do have our faults and they are big, but we are the culture of freedom and liberty. Also THANK YOU ENGLAND for being the first to stir the pot with these jackasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well #1 Saddam didn't recognize the terms of the treaty of the Persian Gulf War which sad to say was a VALID reason for war but we heard the same shit the UN has been spewing since it was created "Give sanctions more time"....I think that is their fucking motto! #2 He had his eyes on Kuwait before and seeing how he still had an army well it was only a matter of time.


    Kirkland we ARE the nice and innocent party, we are willing to pay them a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money for their product and they are living in the fucking stone age. OUR culture is the better culture and I say that knowing full well we do have our faults and they are big, but we are the culture of freedom and liberty. Also THANK YOU ENGLAND for being the first to stir the pot with these jackasses.
    No we arent,Iraq complied.
    Admitably they tried to get around it in the 90's,but the 90's arent the 00's.
    And we did consistently attack them in the 90's. I'll grant,it didnt have a clever name like "Operation Desert Penis Extender", but we bombed the snot out of that country persistantly for the entire decade. If they had even tried to get weapons of mass destruction,they got turned in to a crater.
    And please dont give me(because I knew you were going to) the feed line about them being Muslims,because I hate to break it to you,Iraq had a secular goverment under Sadaam. The head of the military was a Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well #1 Saddam didn't recognize the terms of the treaty of the Persian Gulf War which sad to say was a VALID reason for war but we heard the same shit the UN has been spewing since it was created "Give sanctions more time"....I think that is their fucking motto! #2 He had his eyes on Kuwait before and seeing how he still had an army well it was only a matter of time.


    Kirkland we ARE the nice and innocent party, we are willing to pay them a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money for their product and they are living in the fucking stone age. OUR culture is the better culture and I say that knowing full well we do have our faults and they are big, but we are the culture of freedom and liberty. Also THANK YOU ENGLAND for being the first to stir the pot with these jackasses.
    Yah, we agree on that much, at least. The oil gets paid for, even now. By some accounts, you'd think some people believe the oil is being pumped into ships and carried away free of charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well #1 Saddam didn't recognize the terms of the treaty of the Persian Gulf War which sad to say was a VALID reason for war but we heard the same shit the UN has been spewing since it was created "Give sanctions more time"....I think that is their fucking motto! #2 He had his eyes on Kuwait before and seeing how he still had an army well it was only a matter of time.


    Kirkland we ARE the nice and innocent party, we are willing to pay them a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money for their product and they are living in the fucking stone age. OUR culture is the better culture and I say that knowing full well we do have our faults and they are big, but we are the culture of freedom and liberty. Also THANK YOU ENGLAND for being the first to stir the pot with these jackasses.
    Saddam didn't break the terms of the treaty, America did. The US is bound by law to respect international law but didn't and invaded Iraq against the wishes of the world community and against the law. Which of course makes the US a rogue nation. Saddam was in no position to invade any other country. None of his neighbours wanted the US to invade Iraq apart from Iran who were delighted when the US did because it meant that the US would inevitably have to hand over control of Iraq to them. Iran achieved something they'd wanted for thirteen centuries but were unable to achieve without having to fire a shot when the idiot Bush invaded Iraq.

    The US has never paid anything near fair price for Arab oil for decades. It only began to happen in the seventies when the Arabs started to regain a little control over their oilfields. Before you make ridiculous comments like that you should check whether it's true or not and as always you'll find that you're wrong. This is a long article and contains no pictures but is full of facts and evidence and shows how US oil companies robbed the Arabs of untold billions for half a century and is just a small part of the whole story :

    OPEC and Crude Oil

    Since the seventies there's been an ongoing US attempt to reestablish control over Arab oil, the Iraq invasion being one part of that.

    For 300 million Arabs living under dictators that the US have intalled/propped up over the decades the US is the country of repression, misery, death and destruction. They'd love freedom and democracy in their own countries but their countries' regimes are propped up and maintained by the US so because of America any movement towards freedom is impossible. You may be the biggest pro-British person on the planet but if we come over to North Carolina and put our boot on your neck for forty or fifty years eventually you won't think of British people in quite the same way.

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