you he to read this

[ICB]

Actually we'll have to see when he fights next,since I started training him,he looks a hell of alot better then he used to.
And he has exactly 2 more professional wins then Ice does,and thats without a trainer.

One against someone who plays boxing Charlie Zelenoff, who is the biggest joke on the internet, who had never fought in his life and another agaist a fighter who hasn't won a fight.

Please don't insult my intelligence i come from a good boxing family, i've had relatives that have been pro boxers. I may not be a professional but i do just fine in Amateur boxing. And i wouldn't be stupid enough to turn pro, with no experience/training.

And im proud of what i do and i don't need to brag on here, or say how good i am. I just bloody get on with the job and thats the end of it. And im just sick of people making a joke out of the sport i love.

Some of the stuff on here actually makes me sick to my stomach, because its like a game or some sort of freak show, the way Andrew, and his ridiculous trainer Stacy treat this sport.

A) Stacy isnt his trainer any more,if he ever really was
B) Save your venom for people who deserve it,half of the East Coast mid level promoters and matchmakers are at best under investigation,if not convicted or under indictment,and your worried about Andrew getting mad because a retired fighter talked smack,and Andrew stepped up to the plate to defend himself.

Im not worried about anything lets get that straight, right away. I couldn't careless about Andrew if you want my honest opinion. Im just sick of these circus type threads about the sport i love.

How can you honestly sit there and have the cheek to tell me, these threads aren't a mockery to boxing ? and why is it everytime i make a comment about Andrew, you try and discredit me.

Like last time you made a ridiculous comment about one of your women, fighters being able to beat me in a boxing ring. Which i find laughable because firstly i wouldn't degrade myself as a man, by stepping in the ring with a women in the first place, and secondly you have no idea about me at all.

I mean honestly do you read half of the crap you spurt out ? im not a nasty person at all and if you ask anyone who knew me, they would tell you im an easily approachable guy always joking, and im actually pretty quiet guy and i like to just get on with my training when im in my boxing gym.

But im just sick of these threads all the time i know some people on here, don't mind it but i do and its really gettng tiresome and it is a mockery to the sport, just like Charlie Zelenoff who is probably the biggest joke in boxing history.

It just seems people don't really take boxing seriously, when im getting ready for a fight i just totally isolate myself and work as hard as i can, real fighters are the ones that just get on with the job without talking nonsense like Andrew does.

I would gain a bit of respect for Andrew if he would stop telling us how good he is, and just bloody show it and get your ass in the gym and show it. Instead of talking the talk walk the walk.

[Trainer Monkey]

One against someone who plays boxing Charlie Zelenoff, who is the biggest joke on the internet, who had never fought in his life and another agaist a fighter who hasn't won a fight.

Please don't insult my intelligence i come from a good boxing family, i've had relatives that have been pro boxers. I may not be a professional but i do just fine in Amateur boxing. And i wouldn't be stupid enough to turn pro, with no experience/training.

And im proud of what i do and i don't need to brag on here, or say how good i am. I just bloody get on with the job and thats the end of it. And im just sick of people making a joke out of the sport i love.

Some of the stuff on here actually makes me sick to my stomach, because its like a game or some sort of freak show, the way Andrew, and his ridiculous trainer Stacy treat this sport.

A) Stacy isnt his trainer any more,if he ever really was
B) Save your venom for people who deserve it,half of the East Coast mid level promoters and matchmakers are at best under investigation,if not convicted or under indictment,and your worried about Andrew getting mad because a retired fighter talked smack,and Andrew stepped up to the plate to defend himself.

Im not worried about anything lets get that straight, right away. I couldn't careless about Andrew if you want my honest opinion. Im just sick of these circus type threads about the sport i love.

How can you honestly sit there and have the cheek to tell me, these threads aren't a mockery to boxing ? and why is it everytime i make a comment about Andrew, you try and discredit me.

Like last time you made a ridiculous comment about one of your women, fighters being able to beat me in a boxing ring. Which i find laughable because firstly i wouldn't degrade myself as a man, by stepping in the ring with a women in the first place, and secondly you have no idea about me at all.

I mean honestly do you read half of the crap you spurt out ? im not a nasty person at all and if you ask anyone who knew me, they would tell you im an easily approachable guy always joking, and im actually pretty quiet guy and i like to just get on with my training when im in my boxing gym.

But im just sick of these threads all the time i know some people on here, don't mind it but i do and its really gettng tiresome and it is a mockery to the sport, just like Charlie Zelenoff who is probably the biggest joke in boxing history.

It just seems people don't really take boxing seriously, when im getting ready for a fight i just totally isolate myself and work as hard as i can, real fighters are the ones that just get on with the job without talking nonsense like Andrew does.

I would gain a bit of respect for Andrew if he would stop telling us how good he is, and just bloody show it and get your ass in the gym and show it. Instead of talking the talk walk the walk.

Apparantly you dont read half the crap I type out,before you type your own,I was calling out Zelenoff you dork.
And for someone who's watched Riddick Bowes comebacks,Michael Dokes self destruction,I can really go on for forever,you have a very selective view of whats "making a mockery of a sport I love"
And what you totally dont get,is self promotion,if you want to get a fight,9 for 10,you have to call someone out,or you dont get a fight. They dont ring your phone because they love you as a fighter.
If you think thats the buis, you'll at least save on your cell minutes, unless you have alot of relatives you like to talk to,because your phone shall not be ringing.
I dont particularly like the You Tube bs,so I dont participate in it,but Id be the first to admit it is effective.
I love baseball as well,but Id be the first to admit,while I didnt like that Tim Raines used to slide head first so he didnt break his coke vials,he has over 500 more stolen bases then I do.

[Trainer Monkey]

PS,Ive seen the tape on his latest trip to the gym,he'd tell you I thought it was better but still flawed

[amat]

That's funny under TM's direction I was expecting Andrew to be flawless. How disappointing. Haven't you ever been told to re-listen to your voicemails Andrew?

[RP33]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

[Trainer Monkey]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

He also lost twice to Panz and hast even fought for 9 years
More Orson Welles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3qg4i22x9M

[RP33]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

He also lost twice to Panz and hast even fought for 9 years
More Orson Welles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3qg4i22x9M

Well, my point is that he was an established pro..

I haven't fought in 23 years, but i'm confident that i would beat kid thunder on sheer god-given talent alone.. and i'm not trying to brag or hype myself up, he's just that bad.. talking about fighting Haugen is ridiculous if he lost 14 times to guys who are much less skilled than Greg.