Does anybody think Valuev won?

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Should have gone to specsavers

If you watch the fight objectively and not nostalgicly for a 46 year old legend and actually noted just the punches im sure youd see it different, whether anyone would want to admit that is another matter

Are you saying I didn't watch it objectively? I have clearly stated my case. You still have not made a convincing argument that Valuev won.
I noted only ONE exchange in that fight that Valuev got a shot in without getting countered.

Explain your views on the four criteria of judging a round as I did, that way we can have an apples to apples argument

Why do you even bother ? its well known Ross is the most biased Evander Holyfield hater on here, in every Evander Holyfield thread he mentions the steroids, even though there is no 100 percent proof, and its well known he is the biggest Mike Tyson nut hugger on here.

Now i don't think you have to a rocket scientist to work out, why he hates Evander Holyfield. I mean i maybe looking to far into this but it couldn't possibly, be because Evander Holyfield whooped his boys ass ?