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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Pacquiao's Significant Fights

    Barrera
    Barrera
    Morales
    Morales
    Morales
    Marquez
    Marquez
    De La Hoya

    Mayweather's Significant Fights

    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo
    Castillo
    Judah
    De La Hoya
    Hatton
    Baldomir

    Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    The part of this whole empowerment of Levi,Bruce Lee and Julius Rain is that he beat Oscar at 147, when Floyd beat a younger DLH with all the advantages at his optimum fighting weight(154), most were downplaying Floyds win saying DLH was a partime fighter and is mostly a promoter and had slipped and gave him no credit for the win..

    But your most Holy Pacquiao does it a year and half later against a shriveled up freeze dried Delahoya and all of a sudden Manny is a world beater

    Now he is going to beat Hatton and Floyd yea ok, why not throw Pavlik in there too
    Last edited by JT Rock; 12-28-2008 at 10:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    The part of this whole empowerment of Levi,Bruce Lee and Julius Rain is that when Floyd beat a younger DLH with all the advantages at his optimum fighting weight, most were downplaying FLoyds win saying DLH was a partime fighter and is mostly a promoter and had slipped and gave him no credit for the win..

    But your most Holy Pacquiao does it a year and half later against a shriveled up freeze dried Delahoya and all of a sudden Manny is a world beater

    Now he is going to beat Hatton and Floyd yea ok, why not throw Pavlik in there too
    I'm sure he would beat Pavlik. Pavlik just got beat by a 43yr old. Pac is only 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    The part of this whole empowerment of Levi,Bruce Lee and Julius Rain is that when Floyd beat a younger DLH with all the advantages at his optimum fighting weight, most were downplaying FLoyds win saying DLH was a partime fighter and is mostly a promoter and had slipped and gave him no credit for the win..

    But your most Holy Pacquiao does it a year and half later against a shriveled up freeze dried Delahoya and all of a sudden Manny is a world beater

    Now he is going to beat Hatton and Floyd yea ok, why not throw Pavlik in there too
    I think the whole appeal of Pac beating De La Hoya was the fact that Pac moved up so much in weight in such a short amount of time and did it when no one gave him a chance to win.

    De La Hoya was not the same fighter he was when he fought Floyd and I think it was more about the weight rather than him being shot. When he fights again at 154 I think we'll all see he's still not that bad.

    Either way, the weight, size, and predictions were supposedly against Pac and him beating all those odds made the win big for me.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Pacquiao's Significant Fights

    Barrera
    Barrera
    Morales
    Morales
    Morales
    Marquez
    Marquez
    De La Hoya

    Mayweather's Significant Fights

    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo
    Castillo
    Judah
    De La Hoya
    Hatton
    Baldomir
    Chavez
    Hernandez
    Manfrdy

    Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.
    I added a few for you since people forget Floyd was a phenom at lower weights

    But I think your being more than sensible with your analysis

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Difference between MAyweather and Pac.



    MAyweather= He's ducking the best in his division. Hasn't fought someone who will really give him a real test of his skill (Cotto, MArgarito... proof...Mayweather rejected an offer of US$8 million to fight Antonio Margarito and split with promoter Bob Arum) REason. Read my first sentence.


    Pac= Fought the best out there and demolish (or at least won over them). FACT.


    Now, JT.... can you prove that PBF is really faster than Pac? Me, I can prove otherwise.


    Pac was hitting DLH at will while PBF wasn't. PBF was even a little scared against DLH. Watch that fight again and compare it with Pac vs DLH.

    Peace man.
    pac fought David Diaz at LW and u call that the best in that division , when JMM (who alot of people though he beat Pac) beat the RING champ.

    and PBF was not scared of Oscar thats just a silly ass comment to make Pac look better. Dont forget the FACT that Floyd went UP in weight to fight Oscar he didnt have to drain himself to 147 which he hasnt fought at since Gatti.
    Diaz winning a vacant belt by beating a non champion (Cruz) must really impress some people

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Floyds gonna get his monkey ass knocked out. I can't wait
    Why not just call him a n****r why your at it

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Pacquiao's Significant Fights

    Barrera
    Barrera
    Morales
    Morales
    Morales
    Marquez
    Marquez
    De La Hoya
    julio (at the time julio was one of the top in the division and pac destroyed him no other can in two rounds)

    ledwaba ( underrated but IMO equalled to most of floyds oppenent)

    sanchez ( pac should of won this fight, sanchez is a quality oppenent but he is one dirty mofo)

    david diaz (if your gonna include gatti)

    larios (this guy is underrated)

    sasakul (wbc flyweight title, pac took him out in

    fahsan 3k battery (featherweight eliminator too fahsan out in 4)

    Nedal Hussein ( underrated talent, quality oppenent for sure)

    Mayweather's Significant Fights

    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo
    Castillo
    Judah
    De La Hoya
    Hatton
    Baldomir

    Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

    wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

    in red are added.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Pound for Pound Pacmans oppenets are better, theres nothing that will sway my mind on that. If Barrera is naturally same weight as all of floyds oppenets, he takes them out. Almost every fighter has that one guy thats nips at your heels, you could say JMM was Pacquiao's, but he never beat Manny Pacquiao. I wont ever take anything away from JMM, hes a great fighter. They were both close fights but Manny comes out on top for both. Look at Bernard hopkins. One of the greatest fighters of all time. But he had that one guy, Jermain taylor who nipped at his heals and he couldnt surpass him. Manny Pacquiao will be Mayweathers achilles heel, he's gonna be that one guy! The only way this will be settled is when the two of them mix it up, and I cant wait for that. I think it will be much bigger than Mayweather and DLH. As far as the DLH having all the advatages against Floyd, glove type and all that baby crap, thats mind games pure and simple. Roach did the same thing against Oscar, hovering over him when he was getting his hands taped. Thats mind games. Sugar ray leonard did the same thing to haggler. To try to use that as a crutch shows immaturity! Boxing is just as much mental as it is physical. Floyd may not act like it out of the ring but I can assure you that Manny is much more confident inside that ring, much looser. It takes a while for Mayweather to loosen up and get into a grove, and with Pacquiao's movement its gonna take longer than that!
    yep ignore the facts and keep speculating.. like I said before he beat DLH he wasnt on the radar with Mayweather, now all of a sudden he is going to be Floyds achilles heal

    Dont even bring Taylor and Hopkins into this, Jermain beat him on youth and pure athleticism, in Hops prime he would have beat him quite easily..

    Mayweather is probably the coolest most composed fighter we have ever seen in the ring he has never been never dented up, cut, Knocked down(except when he took a knee from breaking his hand) knocked out or stopped I doubt Manny will change that..
    Mind games are you serious were not talking prefight stuff pal, this was drawn up before training camp even started... Nice try though
    Last edited by JT Rock; 12-28-2008 at 10:24 PM.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Pacquiao's Significant Fights

    Barrera
    Barrera
    Morales
    Morales
    Morales
    Marquez
    Marquez
    De La Hoya
    julio (at the time julio was one of the top in the division and pac destroyed him no other can in two rounds)

    ledwaba ( underrated but IMO equalled to most of floyds oppenent)

    sanchez ( pac should of won this fight, sanchez is a quality oppenent but he is one dirty mofo)

    david diaz (if your gonna include gatti)

    larios (this guy is underrated)

    sasakul (wbc flyweight title, pac took him out in

    fahsan 3k battery (featherweight eliminator too fahsan out in 4)

    Nedal Hussein ( underrated talent, quality oppenent for sure)

    Mayweather's Significant Fights

    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo
    Castillo
    Judah
    De La Hoya
    Hatton
    Baldomir

    Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

    wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

    in red are added.
    C'mon man, I know about those other people. I said "Significant Fights" and if that needed more clarification the big names they've fought.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    C-Lo,

    put J.Ts list with mine and its a far better list really.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    C-Lo,

    put J.Ts list with mine and its a far better list really.
    Even without those names, I think Pacquiao has the better resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    C-Lo,

    put J.Ts list with mine and its a far better list really.
    if your going to Diaz then I'll put Philip N'Dou in there seeing he was undefeated and won every fight by KO until Floyd humiliated him

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Pacquiao's Significant Fights

    Barrera
    Barrera
    Morales
    Morales
    Morales
    Marquez
    Marquez
    De La Hoya
    julio (at the time julio was one of the top in the division and pac destroyed him no other can in two rounds)

    ledwaba ( underrated but IMO equalled to most of floyds oppenent)

    sanchez ( pac should of won this fight, sanchez is a quality oppenent but he is one dirty mofo)

    david diaz (if your gonna include gatti)

    larios (this guy is underrated)

    sasakul (wbc flyweight title, pac took him out in

    fahsan 3k battery (featherweight eliminator too fahsan out in 4)

    Nedal Hussein ( underrated talent, quality oppenent for sure)

    Mayweather's Significant Fights

    Gatti
    Corrales
    Castillo
    Castillo
    Judah
    De La Hoya
    Hatton
    Baldomir

    Looking at it like that just repeats my main point. Mayweather has more names but Pacquiao's has more quality. Another thing is that I would agree to, on the other hand, is that Floyd in those fights are 8-0 while Manny is 6-1-1.

    wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

    in red are added.
    C'mon man, I know about those other people. I said "Significant Fights" and if that needed more clarification the big names they've fought.
    significant fights? or big names? baldomir is not a big name and pacs wbc flyweight title match against sasakul was significant. what do you think?

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    C-Lo,

    put J.Ts list with mine and its a far better list really.
    if your going to Diaz then I'll put Philip N'Dou in there seeing he was undefeated and won every fight by KO until Floyd humiliated him
    fair enough, dig em out man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post


    wow is that all you know that pac has beat? even floyds list is missing some good names. Pac has beaten quality oppenents in the lower weight it seem like people are not aware of the quality fighters, thats making people think mab,eric and jmm are pacs only quality oppenent? those are some of the hall of famers but pac has far more quality oppenent then people know of. I guess cause peole dont follow asia or the lower weight divisions.

    in red are added.
    C'mon man, I know about those other people. I said "Significant Fights" and if that needed more clarification the big names they've fought.
    significant fights? or big names? baldomir is not a big name and pacs wbc flyweight title match against sasakul was significant. what do you think?

    Doesn't matter to me. Whatever you'd like...

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