Calzaghe-Hagler?

[Boom Boom]

Calzaghe tends to trde to keep things interesting. Hagler is the wrong guy to trade with. At a catchweight of say 165 Hagler stops him in 10.

[Dark Lord Al]

prime for prime Hagler chews up Calzaghe and says who's next. If Byron Mitchell can floor a prime Calzaghe , the Hagler walks through him.

[JazMerkin]

Hagler all day. If JC got floored by some of the guys he did, than Hagler would have him. The only guy to ever floor Hagler was Roldan who was a well known huge puncher, & even then some people consider it more of a trip. So Joe couldn't drop him, & I think if Hagler put Joe down when he got back up Hagler would make sure he went back down. TBH the only Middleweight or SMW of the last 20 years, that I can see maybe beating a Hagler is a prime B-Hop, because he's so clever in the ring and working out individual opponents.

[ross]

prime for prime Hagler chews up Calzaghe and says who's next. If Byron Mitchell can floor a prime Calzaghe , the Hagler walks through him.

Mitchell was a big puncher at super middle, Hagler wasnt at middle and if Hagler were in the middle weight division today, hed have more sense than to move up and get the piss taken out of him by the bigger, stronger and faster Calzaghe.

Hagler never had the balls to move up before so why now?

All the big names Hagler beat were from Welter

[KananKrus]

Are they in the same weight class? Or if not, did either Marvin or Joe, move in weight categories, with relative ease?

I am having a hard time framing them in a picture-- with that vast disparity in stature constantly obscuring this side of clear.

[porkypara]

prime for prime Hagler chews up Calzaghe and says who's next. If Byron Mitchell can floor a prime Calzaghe , the Hagler walks through him.

That is not always the case is it?


A bit like saying the coz A young Muhammad Ali got dropped against Banks and Cooper that Frazer and Forman would chew him up so to speak.


Any fighter if he gets caught right can go down.Its just the great champions get up and fight back and win.

[littlebif]

Calzaghe tends to trde to keep things interesting. Hagler is the wrong guy to trade with. At a catchweight of say 165 Hagler stops him in 10.

Calzaghe hasnt fought below 168 and that is a stuggle so there is now way the fight would have happend below 168.

[ross]

Thats right, Hagler never moved up and never wanted to, he was quite content to fight others who had the balls to move up and as much of a hard fight that Hagler had with Mugabi im sure Joe wouldnt have struggled.

Hagler plodded forward and wore people down, that wouldnt happen with Joe, especially since Joe would be naturally stronger as well.

[Trainer Monkey]

Thats right, Hagler never moved up and never wanted to, he was quite content to fight others who had the balls to move up and as much of a hard fight that Hagler had with Mugabi im sure Joe wouldnt have struggled.

Hagler plodded forward and wore people down, that wouldnt happen with Joe, especially since Joe would be naturally stronger as well.

Completely bogus statement,Hagler was too short to move up

[ross]

Completely bogus statement,Hagler was too short to move up

Really?

Hagler was 5,9 and a half whereas Roberto Duran who started out as a light weight and gave Hagler one of his hardest fights is only 5,7"

Look at Pacquiao

Making excuses for Hagler

[Taeth]

I think people are letting their ATG p4p list ranking fool them. Calzaghe is a really good figher, who would be competitive with any of the four even likely p4p. People also forget that Calzaghe doesn't spar when he trains, so that would give him a higher tendency to go down in the early rounds. If Hagler could truly hurt Calzaghe, then I think he could win, but I don't see him hurting Calzaghe besides maybe once early, but we've seen how Calzaghe deals with those situations. I think these two are both built of the same clothe in many ways, both are unorthodox southpaws who are undeniably effective, they both like to impose their will, they both can box or fight, they both are better offensively than defensively. They both have that "hardness" to them that makes them so effective.

[Trainer Monkey]

Completely bogus statement,Hagler was too short to move up

Really?

Hagler was 5,9 and a half whereas Roberto Duran who started out as a light weight and gave Hagler one of his hardest fights is only 5,7"

Look at Pacquiao

Making excuses for Hagler

Duran by the time he was done moving up in weight,looked like he ate Duran

[ross]

He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

Durrrrr!!!

Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him

[rjj tszyu]

I'd go Hagler by KO. I know Joe's got a solid chin but if Hagler floored him like Jones and Hopkins did he used to have great finishing skills and IMO wouldn't have given him chance to recover like Roy did especially.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

the only way this fight would ever take place is if haglar came out of retirement right now............otherwise calzaghe would never fight him if he was at his peak, marvins now in his 50's which suits calzaghe down to a T............joe would turn down any chance of a prime fight with marvin telling us " marvins not in my league, there's no interest in the fight " he'd then go fight someone we've never heard of whos got 7 loss's on his record out of 26 fights

prime for prime i think haglar would win unless its the same judges who scored the haglar v sugar ray