Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
Alright with so many brilliant matchups coming up in the lower weight classes I started thinking how P4P list would look minus the bigger guys.

So with that in mind here's my list.

1. JMM
2. Izzy
3. Rafa
4. Calderon
5. Vic
6. Caballero
7. Nonito
8. Nate
9. Joan
10. Montiel

Honors: JuanMa, Solis, Hasegawa, Moreno, Mijares.


A few things.
- I refuse to list John until he fights someone else with credibility I refuse to accept any excuses. I also think JMM beat him in the fight.
- Nonito although he holds a win over Vic, Vic wasn't P4P when Nonito beat him so you cant use that as a reason.
- The 1st 6 were easy to list it was the last 4 that I had to really move around.
I dont know mick, just cause vic beat mijares his above nonito and now a p4pder? I know vic dominated mijares but IMO if nonito and vic fought again. vic wouldn't win a single round again and would get knocked out again. I think both Nonito and Montiel are above vic. As good as we think Mijares is, we still gotta consider how good Nonito and MOntiel is too. If Mijares was clearly the superior fighter over Nonito and MOntiel then yea I may agree with you. Mijares is not though and has not proven much except his win over arce who I think is as overrated as vic is. IMO the nonito montiel showdown is the biggest match below 130 since rafa izzy 3.

His my list:

1.JMM (no need to explain)

2.Izzy (no need to explain)

3.Rafa (he came up in weight and beat izzy but lost the next two against izzy. he still neck and neck with izzy though IMO)

4.Calderon (still undefeated and is likely to retire undefeated)

5.Nonito - (Lost his second pro fight but has been perfect since then, inactive for a while lately but has ko'ed his last 4 oppenents. Including a dominating performance over Vic Darchinyan)

6.Montiel (With the defeat of Mijares, IMO Montiel is now the best match and toughest oppenent for NOnito)

7. Solis (this is the guy that is likely to be the reason while calderon wont retire undefeated.)

8. Vic (coming off a great win over Mijares, but IMO that just proves we overrated Mijares a bit after his win over arce. It does not mean Vic is suddenly super vic and we should disregard nonitos win over vic and montiels career as well)

9. Guzman (Not a fan of him but he do have talent, he just not handling his career wisely)

10. John (Just like Guzman, Im not a fan of his but he is a talent that is not being presented well worldwide.)



About Mijares, I like him a lot ever since his win over Arce and his ko win over sasakul but he was dominated by Vic and does have a total of 4 defeats. Plus His biggest win is over a guy I believe is overrated (Arce)

Nate, Juanma is just outside top 10 for me. I like Nate but his only big win lately is against Diaz, Diaz isn't exactly a p4p talent. Juanma like Nate doesn't really hold big win over a p4p talent. I have faith in Juanma though to break into top 10 p4p in the future.