Calzaghe-Hagler?

[ross]

He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

Durrrrr!!!

Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him

Super Middleweight division was made a proper division in 1984, now at that time. There was no big names at that weight class at all. So it would of been a waste of time moving up to that weight class, especially with all the big names at Middleweight. Lastly the only other move he could of made was move up to Light Heavyweight and he was clearly too small for that weight class, Ross you know nothing about boxing your an idiot.

Dont cry about it

Hagler wouldve eaten punches all night like Lacy did.

[OumaFan]

shouldn't there have been a grin or something at the end of that second line Ross?

[Taeth]

shouldn't there have been a grin or something at the end of that second line Ross?

Yeah, but there is no happy medium these days, some people are idolizing the past, others are ignorant to it.

[OumaFan]

I agree people put up guys from the past on a pedestal. I don't think Hagler would stop him.

He would be more precise with his punches though. Joe would throw more most likely. Depends on what a judge likes I guess.

[Taeth]

I don't know, You get Calzaghe throwing sloppy punches when he is doing anything to land like against Hopkins or he is able to land with everything like against Lacy, but when he fought Kessler, I was very impressed with how accurate and well schooled he was in his own way.

[ICB]

He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

Durrrrr!!!

Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him

Super Middleweight division was made a proper division in 1984, now at that time. There was no big names at that weight class at all. So it would of been a waste of time moving up to that weight class, especially with all the big names at Middleweight. Lastly the only other move he could of made was move up to Light Heavyweight and he was clearly too small for that weight class, Ross you know nothing about boxing your an idiot.

Dont cry about it

Hagler wouldve eaten punches all night like Lacy did.

Don't cry about what ? i just gave you a fact and made you look like a tool, which you are. All you try and do is wind people up, you can't have a sensible debate.

And the only fighters you know about are Mike Tyson, Joe Calzaghe, your boxing knowledge is ridiculous. You even claimed Michael Watson was beating Mike McCallum. Do you honestly ready half the crap you come out with ?

[ross]

All you try and do is wind people up

Does it hurt that much to admit Hagler would lose to Calzaghe?

[ICB]

All you try and do is wind people up

Does it hurt that much to admit Hagler would lose to Calzaghe?

So you have a time machine that can put Joe Calzaghe back to the 80s, go yourself and actually watched at ringside Joe Calzaghe defeat Marvin Hagler ?

[ross]

[WelshDevilRob]

Hagler could easily have fought as a Super Middleweight - he was always well above the Middleweight limit when he entered the ring on fightnight.

He would beat Joe though I do see it as a distance fight. Haglers competition is above Joes who lets be honest only stepped it up at the twighlight of his career.

[leftylee]

Hagler could easily have fought as a Super Middleweight - he was always well above the Middleweight limit when he entered the ring on fightnight.

He would beat Joe though I do see it as a distance fight. Haglers competition is above Joes who lets be honest only stepped it up at the twighlight of his career.

That sig is fukking badass!!

[Taeth]

Hagler could easily have fought as a Super Middleweight - he was always well above the Middleweight limit when he entered the ring on fightnight.

He would beat Joe though I do see it as a distance fight. Haglers competition is above Joes who lets be honest only stepped it up at the twighlight of his career.

Hagler only fought really good fighters at the end of his career, somebody already said it, their careers very much parallel eachother. Except Joe fought older guys, and Hagler fought smaller guys.

[Dark Lord Al]

Hagler could easily have fought as a Super Middleweight - he was always well above the Middleweight limit when he entered the ring on fightnight.

He would beat Joe though I do see it as a distance fight. Haglers competition is above Joes who lets be honest only stepped it up at the twighlight of his career.

Well Rob you are certainly unbiased , you do not let the fact that Calzaghe is a fellow Welshman . cloud your excellent knowledge of boxing past and present.
Marvin wins this fight for me also .
Respect for one of the best posters on here.

[ross]

For me it all boils down to this,

Hagler couldnt overcome Leonard and im sure everyone will agree that Calzaghe would pose a hell of a lot more problems

Hes taller, stronger, works harder and probably has more power, he deffinitly did before his hands played up, you dont pout Eubank down in the first if you dont have power.

Also, I dont reckon Hagler would be powerfull enough to keep Joe off him, Hes taken flush shots off some big punchers and not budged and those that did hurt him were well beaten in return, Hopkins was forced to crawl around on the floor for refuge, Mitchell was stopped in the same round, Jones was just embarrassed, kessler was completely beffuddled and outworked.

Joe hasnt looked close to losing yet, to some big strong and good fighters, I dont see someone as small as Hagler doing it.

Eubank said after their match he was very surprised with Calzaghes power.