Calzaghe-Hagler?

[RozzySean]

[Hagler was a pretty old 31. He had 64 fights under his belt.

Going by boxrec he had 61 fights.

Duran was a year older and had 81 fights and this was also his first fight at middle

Hagler is starting to look like Taylor

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It dont matter what anyone says, Duran was older, smaller and had more miles on the clock

[RozzySean]

It dont matter what anyone says, Duran was older, smaller and had more miles on the clock

Duran is still an ATG HoFer who managed to beat Iran Barkley a few years later. This is Roberto Duran we are talking about, one of the greatest fighters to ever put on a pair of gloves. And Hagler beat him clearly, more clearly than Joe beat old 'Nard or for that matter, Robin Reid.

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Fair play but I for one know that Reid is very underrated and was unfortunate to come at the same time as Joe, Reid had power and a good chin but lacked the fire to beat up the lesser men

Reid was deffo good

Yep Hagler beat him but Hagler also had losses

As yet Joe is unbeaten

Happy new year, its only a boxing forum and unless there is a delorian kicking around any old versus new boxing mythical matches are open for debate so no one will win

[RozzySean]

Fair play but I for one know that Reid is very underrated and was unfortunate to come at the same time as Joe, Reid had power and a good chin but lacked the fire to beat up the lesser men

Reid was deffo good

Yep Hagler beat him but Hagler also had losses

As yet Joe is unbeaten

Happy new year, its only a boxing forum and unless there is a delorian kicking around any old versus new boxing mythical matches are open for debate so no one will win

While it's impressive that Calzaghe is undefeated and Hagler had losses, you have to consider the era, the protectedness of Calzaghe, and Hagler's difficulties getting good matchups. He wasn't nearly as protected as many of today's fighters.

Reid was no pushover, that's for sure. I actually think of him as a poor man's Marvin Hagler, except orthodox. If Reid had been around at the time of Hagler, he would have been one of Hagler's tougher defenses (behind Duran, Hearns, Mugabi, and Leonard), but at the end of the day, I'm not sure Reid is much better than Hamsho, Antufermo, or Fuli Obel. Reid is more fresh in our minds, but Mustafa, Vito, and Fulegencio were no joke during there time. They were certainly better than Caveman Lee