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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    USA (probably at #1)
    Mexico
    Puerto Rico
    UK
    Jamaica (if you count boxers such as Lloyd Honeyghan as well)



    Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.

    A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.

    Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
    And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
    Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
    1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
    job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.


    And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
    Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
    Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
    Agreed, on the plus side though, at least he suffered no major long-term damage from it, and makes a good living in movies now, too often guys who go through that end up with nothing left mentally & struggle to make opportunities for themselves elsewhere.

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    10-4, mate

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    I would say in order (personal choice)

    USA
    Mexico
    Puerto Rico
    UK
    Thailand

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):

    1. Puerto Rico
    2. Panama
    3. U.S.
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Venezuela
    6. Mexico
    7. Cuba
    8. England

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):

    1. Puerto Rico
    2. Panama
    3. U.S.
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Venezuela
    6. Mexico
    7. Cuba
    8. England

    How about Argentina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):

    1. Puerto Rico
    2. Panama
    3. U.S.
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Venezuela
    6. Mexico
    7. Cuba
    8. England

    How about Argentina?
    Argentina was 9th, behind England.

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    U.S
    Mexico
    Puerto Rico
    Any country ever have only one Champion??

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    Mexico has not only produce many Champions but a few great champions. I don't use the word great very offten. USA just behide them.

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):

    1. Puerto Rico
    2. Panama
    3. U.S.
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Venezuela
    6. Mexico
    7. Cuba
    8. England

    Found this video and in terms of world champions Mexico is #2 in terms of World Champions behind the US (I'm assuming as of the time the video was made and it looks pretty old.) I know you boast P.R. is #1 per capita (population) but a champion is a champion regardless, should have fought for more land for P.R. Just kidding.

    The video is in spanish but it states that fact in the first minute or so. It's actually a good video although cut short.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxhcz5JFS0M
    Last edited by Onix; 01-02-2009 at 11:45 AM.
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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):

    1. Puerto Rico
    2. Panama
    3. U.S.
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Venezuela
    6. Mexico
    7. Cuba
    8. England

    Found this video and in terms of world champions Mexico is #2 in terms of World Champions behind the US (I'm assuming as of the time the video was made and it looks pretty old.) I know you boast P.R. is #1 per capita (population) but a champion is a champion regardless, should have fought for more land for P.R. Just kidding.

    The video is in spanish but it states that fact in the first minute or so. It's actually a good video although cut short.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxhcz5JFS0M
    Technical slipup there, Onix my friend.

    Per capita is a comparison based on population, not square miles of land. And while it's true that both the U.S. [425] and Mexico [108] have had more world champions than Puerto Rico [40], when seen on a per capita basis both fall far short of Puerto Rico. Hence, my numbers.

    [Boxrec - July 2008]


    Last edited by TitoFan; 01-02-2009 at 07:19 PM.

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    Default Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    In terms of per capita world champions (and in descending order):

    1. Puerto Rico
    2. Panama
    3. U.S.
    4. Dominican Republic
    5. Venezuela
    6. Mexico
    7. Cuba
    8. England

    Found this video and in terms of world champions Mexico is #2 in terms of World Champions behind the US (I'm assuming as of the time the video was made and it looks pretty old.) I know you boast P.R. is #1 per capita (population) but a champion is a champion regardless, should have fought for more land for P.R. Just kidding.

    The video is in spanish but it states that fact in the first minute or so. It's actually a good video although cut short.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxhcz5JFS0M
    Technical slipup there, Onix my friend.

    Per capita is a comparison based on population, not square miles of land. And while it's true that both the U.S. [425] and Mexico [108] have had more world champions than Puerto Rico [40], when seen on a per capita basis both fall far short of Puerto Rico. Hence, my numbers.

    [Boxrec - July 2008]



    Well I did write in their population, but if you would have fought for more land, you would have have more people. Thats the way I meant it.
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    I am tying to come up with a formula based on per capita champions; that is to say, what country produced the most champions based on its population. A lot of flaws in this, but my assumption is that PR might be the one--or maybe Jamaica.

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    HHhmm, seven champions from Jamaica divided by 2,780,132 (population).

    But 40 from PR divided by 3,944,259, so adios to Jamaica!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    HHhmm, seven champions from Jamaica divided by 2,780,132 (population).

    But 40 from PR divided by 3,944,259, so adios to Jamaica!
    When I did some research on this back a few months ago, I didn't include countries that hadn't had at least 10 world champions. I guess that's why Jamaica hadn't made my list.

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    Australia needs some champions.... We had Kostya.. He was a bloody good all round fighter..

    But we have very few after him..

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