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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Heres my top Mexican Fighters:

    1. JCC
    2. 'Finito' Lopez
    3. Olivares
    4. Sanchez
    5. Roman
    6. Erik
    7. JMM
    8. Marco
    9. Pintor
    10. Zarate


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    Old Timers: Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita & Baby Arizmendi.
    Good list, as I mentioned before I would rank Morales higher than Barrera, as well, just out of interest what are your reasons for this?

    Also Ramirez wasn't bad.

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Wind View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Heres my top Mexican Fighters:

    1. JCC
    2. 'Finito' Lopez
    3. Olivares
    4. Sanchez
    5. Roman
    6. Erik
    7. JMM
    8. Marco
    9. Pintor
    10. Zarate


    Honors: Saldivar, Zaragoza, Rafa, Canto & "Chiquita" Gonzalez.
    Old Timers: Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita & Baby Arizmendi.
    Good list, as I mentioned before I would rank Morales higher than Barrera, as well, just out of interest what are your reasons for this?

    Also Ramirez wasn't bad.
    I can't lie, there's days where I feel MAB should be ranked higher.
    Then theres days where I feel Erik is higher.

    For me it has to do with I'm an Erik fan and he's my all time fav. Bantamweight I think he was better all around then MAB.
    I couldn't argue with someone who had MAB ahead of Erik it's just one of those things were theres no right or wrong...

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    I loved Ruben Olivares at Bantam ,at his best before the white powder got Him. He was special, Had it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    I loved Ruben Olivares at Bantam ,at his best before the white powder got Him. He was special, Had it all.
    The alcohol got him 1st then the powder came after that regardless Ruben was phenomenal.

    Before JCC there was "El Puas" Olivares, Mexicos most adored champion.

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    Definitely the list should at least be 8-10, considering how many of them are almost equal in skill at 4-7, ...how closely bunched up they are in the middle of the list. Sometimes it just boils down to personal preference for style, endurance and the like, ...trivial advantage one has over the other. That is how finely separated the list is after JCC Sr., SS, maybe MAB and EM.

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    Salvador Sanchez es mejores!!

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    This is a tough tough list to make.

    I think majority of the poeple will put JCC at number 1, right?

    I really can't agree to that. I really think in Sanchez short career he had accomplish so much more then JCC. However in Sanchez case, who knows what would of happen if he had fought past 23. Boxing is unpredictable and it may be unlikely but what if he would go downhill from there if he had been able to continue his career. Lopez maybe the most skilled p4p fighter we ever saw, but his resume is suspect. He just didn't have competition, unlike the other great. Having said these I would put Sanchez over both JCC and Lopez becuase he really showed what he can do in the ring. We can wonder what if this what if that but going with what happen inside the sqaured circle, Sanchez won gigantic fights and was 23. As I mentioned earlier what if he goes downhilll from there if he had been able to continue his career. Well what if he continued to excell! My reason for putting Sanchez above the two is simple: he whoop great figthers in a young age. He was that good! The hundred win of JCC dont impress me, personally to me JCC is like 34-5 not counting part time boxers.

    I really can't put a list together but the next three i want to discuss is Marco, Eric and JMM. aww damn I just got a headache!

    Forget it, I aint gonna lie this is just a tough list to make and I really dont have the time to put it together. These guys are so close anyways that nobody can really be wrong or right in making their list.

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    This is a tough tough list to make.

    I think majority of the poeple will put JCC at number 1, right?

    I really can't agree to that. I really think in Sanchez short career he had accomplish so much more then JCC. However in Sanchez case, who knows what would of happen if he had fought past 23. Boxing is unpredictable and it may be unlikely but what if he would go downhill from there if he had been able to continue his career. Lopez maybe the most skilled p4p fighter we ever saw, but his resume is suspect. He just didn't have competition, unlike the other great. Having said these I would put Sanchez over both JCC and Lopez becuase he really showed what he can do in the ring. We can wonder what if this what if that but going with what happen inside the sqaured circle, Sanchez won gigantic fights and was 23. As I mentioned earlier what if he goes downhilll from there if he had been able to continue his career. Well what if he continued to excell! My reason for putting Sanchez above the two is simple: he whoop great figthers in a young age. He was that good! The hundred win of JCC dont impress me, personally to me JCC is like 34-5 not counting part time boxers.

    I really can't put a list together but the next three i want to discuss is Marco, Eric and JMM. aww damn I just got a headache!

    Forget it, I aint gonna lie this is just a tough list to make and I really dont have the time to put it together. These guys are so close anyways that nobody can really be wrong or right in making their list.
    Your out of you mind homeboy. Sanchez over Chavez is like Tyson says "Ludicrous". I do agree with you in the fact that you shouldn't make a list of top 10 Mexicans. It is to tough for you. What you need to do is make a top 10 list of Filp fighters. I don't think I ever seen one. I'll help you out

    1, Pancho Villa
    2, Flash Elorde
    3, Manny Pacquiao
    4, Ceferino Garcia
    5, Rene Barrientos

    Not sure about the rest. You fill it out. Luisto Espinosa has to be up there. But he's not top 5. Maybe 7 or 8.

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    I saw a number of Salvador Sanchez fights, on TV as a young boxing fan in the '70's.

    I rooted for Danny "Little Red" Lopez on both times they clashed. I cannot describe how dejected I was, that on both occasions, my guy, Little Red was “destroyed”. I couldn't even pick which one hurt more; Little Red, beaten as defending the Championship, or the one trying to reclaim it. Both fights were brutal, stoppages.

    Salvador Sanchez can just snap the energy out of you. I did not even know one bit about this youngster prior to the fight, but later felt resentful that he was that good. He gave Lopez a boxing lesson! This was a complete role reversal! Quite a surprise!

    Saw the Benitez fight couldn’t believe it turned one-sided as Benitez had an impeccable record then, I believe. Of course I was so young I did not know that going up in weight class was such a handicap. I gave too much stock on Wilfred’s high knockout ratio!

    Nelson as a young guy (unknown) gave Sanchez fits early on as he had raw, two-fisted power on those young baby dynamites. And he was a very courageous fighter! Plus he was jumpy, and all over. He got brutally stopped though.

    The best one from memory was the Juan La Porte fight. La Porte was one of the guys back then that issues demolition jobs one after another. So it was not altogether surprising that it was a brutal, start to finish boxing match.
    I couldn’t root for Sanchez, regardless, because of his wins against Little Red. That was the boy in me! Each time I rooted against him, he wins BIG! It was sad when he left us, and just as I was warming up to him after the La Porte fight.

    I can describe Salvador Sanchez style as that of a JMM, minus the reverse gear. Salvador will counter with the very best. Then add the Margarito forward-only engine, relaxed, always active, slow but always in a forward motion, and in your face! With a granite chin, head movement that is hard to hit, and unbelievable work rate, Sanchez seemingly was unbeatable in that era.

    The only thing that I have not given much thought is his relative short career, compared with the others on the list whom have carried their ring savvy past prime but still churned great fights time and again.

    I believe that Salvador Sanchez served as the prototype of great Mexican fighters. Great fundamentals, balance, boxing skills, and the spirit to overcome, makes them great ring warriors!

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    Default Re: The Best Mexican Fighters of all Time - Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    I saw a number of Salvador Sanchez fights, on TV as a young boxing fan in the '70's.

    I rooted for Danny "Little Red" Lopez on both times they clashed. I cannot describe how dejected I was, that on both occasions, my guy, Little Red was “destroyed”. I couldn't even pick which one hurt more; Little Red, beaten as defending the Championship, or the one trying to reclaim it. Both fights were brutal, stoppages.

    Salvador Sanchez can just snap the energy out of you. I did not even know one bit about this youngster prior to the fight, but later felt resentful that he was that good. He gave Lopez a boxing lesson! This was a complete role reversal! Quite a surprise!

    Saw the Benitez fight couldn’t believe it turned one-sided as Benitez had an impeccable record then, I believe. Of course I was so young I did not know that going up in weight class was such a handicap. I gave too much stock on Wilfred’s high knockout ratio!

    Nelson as a young guy (unknown) gave Sanchez fits early on as he had raw, two-fisted power on those young baby dynamites. And he was a very courageous fighter! Plus he was jumpy, and all over. He got brutally stopped though.

    The best one from memory was the Juan La Porte fight. La Porte was one of the guys back then that issues demolition jobs one after another. So it was not altogether surprising that it was a brutal, start to finish boxing match.
    I couldn’t root for Sanchez, regardless, because of his wins against Little Red. That was the boy in me! Each time I rooted against him, he wins BIG! It was sad when he left us, and just as I was warming up to him after the La Porte fight.

    I can describe Salvador Sanchez style as that of a JMM, minus the reverse gear. Salvador will counter with the very best. Then add the Margarito forward-only engine, relaxed, always active, slow but always in a forward motion, and in your face! With a granite chin, head movement that is hard to hit, and unbelievable work rate, Sanchez seemingly was unbeatable in that era.

    The only thing that I have not given much thought is his relative short career, compared with the others on the list whom have carried their ring savvy past prime but still churned great fights time and again.

    I believe that Salvador Sanchez served as the prototype of great Mexican fighters. Great fundamentals, balance, boxing skills, and the spirit to overcome, makes them great ring warriors!
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