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    Default Re: Boxing 1 MMA 0

    Even against Valuev Arlovski would be made to look foolish, he doesnt take a shot too well either.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpw5Bq...heslav-datsik/

    He fights face first straight on and wild, ok if you have no gloves on but as soon as he has gloves on and fighting people that are used to punches coming their way he'll end up on his back again.

    Its ok showing someone from that discipline how to box but they need too be doing it regularly, ie a a good few warm up matches first, throw him straight in with a decent boxer and he will get frustrated and revert to being a brawler who wont connect and get his head snapped back till he drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even against Valuev Arlovski would be made to look foolish, he doesnt take a shot too well either.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpw5Bq...heslav-datsik/He fights face first straight on and wild, ok if you have no gloves on but as soon as he has gloves on and fighting people that are used to punches coming their way he'll end up on his back again.

    Its ok showing someone from that discipline how to box but they need too be doing it regularly, ie a a good few warm up matches first, throw him straight in with a decent boxer and he will get frustrated and revert to being a brawler who wont connect and get his head snapped back till he drops.
    You do realize that was his professional debut back in 1999?

    Fight Finder - Andrei "Pitbull" Arlovski's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics

    BTW Vitor Belfort tried to transition to Boxing and KO'D another fighter back in 06 making his debut as well.. No boxing matches from Belfort since
    Last edited by JT Rock; 01-02-2009 at 02:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Boxing 1 MMA 0

    Andrei is a big, athletic, technically skilled fighter, but you don't jump into a world title fight in your debut, thats just not realistic.

    A lot of MMA guys have crossed over to boxing and had success (Belfort, Nick Diaz, Ricco Rodriguez, ect) but their wins were over nobodies. The thought of a guy jumping over and fighting a world champ (even if it is Valuev) is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Andrei is a big, athletic, technically skilled fighter, but you don't jump into a world title fight in your debut, thats just not realistic.

    A lot of MMA guys have crossed over to boxing and had success (Belfort, Nick Diaz, Ricco Rodriguez, ect) but their wins were over nobodies. The thought of a guy jumping over and fighting a world champ (even if it is Valuev) is laughable.
    I agree, no one deserves to get handed a title shot, the only angle that they would be using here is that, Valuev is a sideshow and an undeserving piece of crap champ... so as far as a domestic showdown goes they might try to make it happen despite the calls of BS, throughout the boxing world
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even against Valuev Arlovski would be made to look foolish, he doesnt take a shot too well either.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpw5Bq...heslav-datsik/

    He fights face first straight on and wild, ok if you have no gloves on but as soon as he has gloves on and fighting people that are used to punches coming their way he'll end up on his back again.

    Its ok showing someone from that discipline how to box but they need too be doing it regularly, ie a a good few warm up matches first, throw him straight in with a decent boxer and he will get frustrated and revert to being a brawler who wont connect and get his head snapped back till he drops.

    The fights I've seen him in, he hasn't fought face first at all, he is a quick big guy, and his reminded me of Wladimir, but with less punches or technique, but he is probably a decent boxer.

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    I saw the Vitor fight (boxing debut) he was a bit wild and looked to rush into things. I thought we'd def. see more of him in the ring but like JT said nothing followed. I think the fight took place in his native Brazil also I think either Kelson Pinto or some other Brazilian known fighter was suppose to be on the card but pulled out later.

    I've seen Arslovski training at the Wild Card Gym he's being trained by Freddie Roach and he can hold his own there. Guess we really wont know until he get's in there.
    Arslovski was to make his debut I think on the undercard of JMM-Pac II not sure why he didn't...

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    I think he should start where al lother boxers did and work his way up the food chain but beign in goldenboy promotion he probly is going to start fightin with the big boys.
    Lets all just hope he doesnt reflexively kick someone on the head.
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    Default Re: Boxing 1 MMA 0

    This is the first and only time I will ever type this....


    Valuev wins by KO


    MMA fighters are MMA fighters either because they don't box or because MMA is easier than boxing to be good at.

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    Default Re: Boxing 1 MMA 0

    You guys are generalizing Andre with all the other MMA fighters.

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    Default Re: Boxing 1 MMA 0

    He hasnt got the chin to play with boxings big boys, look at the straight right that lands on his jaw in the vid clip, hes out! and for a good while too!!

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    Default Re: Boxing 1 MMA 0

    Quote Originally Posted by hardcore_crash View Post
    You guys are generalizing Andre with all the other MMA fighters.
    Well it is the sport of stereotypes....middle class white guys with tribal tatoos who love GNC and have anger issues for no good reason...that describes the majority of fighters and fans of the "sport" known as Mixed Martial Arts.

    I don't think this dude will be any different than anyone else switching between MMA and Boxing. Either way it shouldn't be done, boxers don't deal with kicking very well and MMA fighters can't punch worth a damn and their defense is horrible....just watch Chuck Lidell-Rampage Jackson II....Lidell drops his hand and BANG right cross and the Ice Man is ice cold...are you telling me a boxer wouldn't have done the same thing?

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