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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    1 Floyd Mayweather
    2 Manny Pacquiao
    3 Juan Manuel Marquez
    4 Bernard Hopkins
    5 Paul Williams
    6 Antonio Margarito
    7 Ivan Calderon
    8 Chad Dawson
    9 Juan Manuel Lopez
    10 Rafael Marquez

    Right ok let me explain this list a bit, Floyd Mayweather returns and gets the number 1 spot back again and beats Andre Berto this year. Manny Pacquiao/JMM both beat there upcoming opponents and stay where they are. Bernard Hopkins stays at 4 maybe has a fight this year and wins but either he stays at 4 can't see him losing or retiring just yet.

    Joe Calzaghe retires and gets removed off the top 10 P4P list, Antonio Margarito beats Shane Mosley then Miguel Cotto again, Paul Williams beats Winky Wright then a title holder at Middleweight. But doesn't get the credit for beating Winky Wright because he is lackluster. Ivan Calderon defends his title twice this year but against no one well known.

    Rafael Marquez gets knocked down a tad, because he is inactive. Chad Dawson defeats Antonio Tarver again then Glen Johnson again and moves up maybe 1 or 2 places. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats a stiff then beats Israel Vasquez in devastating fashion, he moves into the top 10 and Israel Vasquez gets dropped from the top 10 P4P.
    Ice, retired or not floyd has nothing on pac. No way he moves back to top spot while pac is around. Remember Hatton is at his best at 140, floyd didn't want no part of him there but made him go up at 147 where we all saw already how horrible ricky was there. Pac is fighting hatton where hatton rules at 140. Pac beats hatton and already defeated oscar, floyds resume two top names then floyds resume is completely belittled by pacs.

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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    1 Floyd Mayweather
    2 Manny Pacquiao
    3 Juan Manuel Marquez
    4 Bernard Hopkins
    5 Paul Williams
    6 Antonio Margarito
    7 Ivan Calderon
    8 Chad Dawson
    9 Juan Manuel Lopez
    10 Rafael Marquez

    Right ok let me explain this list a bit, Floyd Mayweather returns and gets the number 1 spot back again and beats Andre Berto this year. Manny Pacquiao/JMM both beat there upcoming opponents and stay where they are. Bernard Hopkins stays at 4 maybe has a fight this year and wins but either he stays at 4 can't see him losing or retiring just yet.

    Joe Calzaghe retires and gets removed off the top 10 P4P list, Antonio Margarito beats Shane Mosley then Miguel Cotto again, Paul Williams beats Winky Wright then a title holder at Middleweight. But doesn't get the credit for beating Winky Wright because he is lackluster. Ivan Calderon defends his title twice this year but against no one well known.

    Rafael Marquez gets knocked down a tad, because he is inactive. Chad Dawson defeats Antonio Tarver again then Glen Johnson again and moves up maybe 1 or 2 places. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats a stiff then beats Israel Vasquez in devastating fashion, he moves into the top 10 and Israel Vasquez gets dropped from the top 10 P4P.
    Ice, retired or not floyd has nothing on pac. No way he moves back to top spot while pac is around. Remember Hatton is at his best at 140, floyd didn't want no part of him there but made him go up at 147 where we all saw already how horrible ricky was there. Pac is fighting hatton where hatton rules at 140. Pac beats hatton and already defeated oscar, floyds resume two top names then floyds resume is completely belittled by pacs.
    Theres flipside to that you could also say Floyd Mayweather fought a much better version of ODLH. And at ODLH's more comfortable weight aswell, so that works both ways when was the last time ODLH fought at Welterweight ? Manny Pacquiao may have the best single wins but overall Floyd Mayweather has a better resume.

    Floyd Mayweather's best wins.

    Genaro Hernandez
    ODLH
    Zab Judah
    Ricky Hatton
    Angel Manfredy
    Diego Corrales
    JLC x2
    Arturo Gatti
    Jesus Chavez
    Carlos Baldomir

    Manny Pacquiao's best wins.

    Erik Morales x2
    MAB X2
    JMM
    ODLH
    Jorge Solis
    Oscar Larios
    Jorge Eliecer Julio
    David Diaz

    But i do think Manny Pacquiao isn't that far off a few more big wins, and he could easily surpass Floyd Mayweather. But i still think he is somewhat behind, plus Floyd Mayweather also has the better achievements.

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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    ICE are you serious? you always list those same names like all of them are tough fighters

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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    How could anyone say Mayweather has nothing on Pac Pac is #1 because Floyd retired, plain and simple...

    Mayweather is the better fighter hands down no doubt...

    Old dried up Delahoya

    Scrub Diaz

    Questionable and controversial desicion against JMM, then refuses a rematch to silence the critics.... JMM goes to 135 and beats the Ring champion while Pac feasts on a mediocre title holder...

    Now JMM is #1 in the division and Pac is #2 But Pac wont rematch him but wait Pac is jumping weights and not unifiying along the way and he is revered, but mayweather did the same thing and got lambasted...

    Thats shits not flying with me

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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    How could anyone say Mayweather has nothing on Pac Pac is #1 because Floyd retired, plain and simple...

    Mayweather is the better fighter hands down no doubt...

    Old dried up Delahoya

    Scrub Diaz

    Questionable and controversial desicion against JMM, then refuses a rematch to silence the critics.... JMM goes to 135 and beats the Ring champion while Pac feasts on a mediocre title holder...

    Now JMM is #1 in the division and Pac is #2 But Pac wont rematch him but wait Pac is jumping weights and not unifiying along the way and he is revered, but mayweather did the same thing and got lambasted...

    Thats shits not flying with me

    Mayweather is the best mouth. If he were to be ranked again he'll' be lucky to make the top 10, because he would rather fight Hatton again than Pacquiao.

    JMM will drop off the top ten because he'll loose to Diaz. JMM is headed downhill and will continue to loose the longer he says. He has to beat Campbell before you can say he's #1 in the division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    How could anyone say Mayweather has nothing on Pac Pac is #1 because Floyd retired, plain and simple...

    Mayweather is the better fighter hands down no doubt...

    Old dried up Delahoya

    Scrub Diaz

    Questionable and controversial desicion against JMM, then refuses a rematch to silence the critics.... JMM goes to 135 and beats the Ring champion while Pac feasts on a mediocre title holder...

    Now JMM is #1 in the division and Pac is #2 But Pac wont rematch him but wait Pac is jumping weights and not unifiying along the way and he is revered, but mayweather did the same thing and got lambasted...

    Thats shits not flying with me

    Mayweather is the best mouth. If he were to be ranked again he'll' be lucky to make the top 10, because he would rather fight Hatton again than Pacquiao.

    JMM will drop off the top ten because he'll loose to Diaz. JMM is headed downhill and will continue to loose the longer he says. He has to beat Campbell before you can say he's #1 in the division.
    Some of the greatest fighters of all time mouthed of, Muhammad Ali to name one. And how would he be lucky to be top 10 if he comeback ? are you frigging serious ?

    How many fighters have won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses ? and how many fighters in modern day boxing have beaten as many quality names as Floyd Mayweather ? and which boxer in modern day boxing has the skills of Floyd Mayweather ?

    Also how the hell will JMM lose to Juan Diaz ? Juan Diaz is a good fighter and i personally like his style. But he got picked apart by Nate Campbell. And JMM is one of the best counter punchers and pot shotters around.

    Plus Juan Diaz doesn't have the power to hurt JMM, and since when has JMM been on the slide ? he has fought 4 amazing fights in a row against MAB, Rocky Juarez, Manny Pacquiao, Joel Casamayor. So i fail to see how he could be on the slide.

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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    How could anyone say Mayweather has nothing on Pac Pac is #1 because Floyd retired, plain and simple...

    Mayweather is the better fighter hands down no doubt...

    Old dried up Delahoya

    Scrub Diaz

    Questionable and controversial desicion against JMM, then refuses a rematch to silence the critics.... JMM goes to 135 and beats the Ring champion while Pac feasts on a mediocre title holder...

    Now JMM is #1 in the division and Pac is #2 But Pac wont rematch him but wait Pac is jumping weights and not unifiying along the way and he is revered, but mayweather did the same thing and got lambasted...

    Thats shits not flying with me

    Mayweather is the best mouth. If he were to be ranked again he'll' be lucky to make the top 10, because he would rather fight Hatton again than Pacquiao.

    JMM will drop off the top ten because he'll loose to Diaz. JMM is headed downhill and will continue to loose the longer he says. He has to beat Campbell before you can say he's #1 in the division.
    Please he'll beat Campbell faster than Casamayor...

    Lose to Diaz... If Campbell could outbox him, JMM will tear his ass up, Jmm is just as tough as Campbell

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    Default Re: what will be the p4p top 10 this time next year??

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    1 Floyd Mayweather
    2 Manny Pacquiao
    3 Juan Manuel Marquez
    4 Bernard Hopkins
    5 Paul Williams
    6 Antonio Margarito
    7 Ivan Calderon
    8 Chad Dawson
    9 Juan Manuel Lopez
    10 Rafael Marquez

    Right ok let me explain this list a bit, Floyd Mayweather returns and gets the number 1 spot back again and beats Andre Berto this year. Manny Pacquiao/JMM both beat there upcoming opponents and stay where they are. Bernard Hopkins stays at 4 maybe has a fight this year and wins but either he stays at 4 can't see him losing or retiring just yet.

    Joe Calzaghe retires and gets removed off the top 10 P4P list, Antonio Margarito beats Shane Mosley then Miguel Cotto again, Paul Williams beats Winky Wright then a title holder at Middleweight. But doesn't get the credit for beating Winky Wright because he is lackluster. Ivan Calderon defends his title twice this year but against no one well known.

    Rafael Marquez gets knocked down a tad, because he is inactive. Chad Dawson defeats Antonio Tarver again then Glen Johnson again and moves up maybe 1 or 2 places. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats a stiff then beats Israel Vasquez in devastating fashion, he moves into the top 10 and Israel Vasquez gets dropped from the top 10 P4P.
    Ice, retired or not floyd has nothing on pac. No way he moves back to top spot while pac is around. Remember Hatton is at his best at 140, floyd didn't want no part of him there but made him go up at 147 where we all saw already how horrible ricky was there. Pac is fighting hatton where hatton rules at 140. Pac beats hatton and already defeated oscar, floyds resume two top names then floyds resume is completely belittled by pacs.
    Theres flipside to that you could also say Floyd Mayweather fought a much better version of ODLH. And at ODLH's more comfortable weight aswell, so that works both ways when was the last time ODLH fought at Welterweight ? Manny Pacquiao may have the best single wins but overall Floyd Mayweather has a better resume.

    Floyd Mayweather's best wins.

    Genaro Hernandez Good fighter
    ODLH Good but past his best still a gutsy move by Floyd (but Manny shifted up big time in weight)
    Zab Judah He was knocked out in two by a 140 great years ago. Floyd could not even KO him.
    Ricky Hatton Hatton moved up to take the fight in a division he only ever did shit in
    Angel Manfredy Good fighter
    Diego Corrales Good fighter, seemed off on the night
    JLC x2 Lost the first one, second one was scored closer than the first lol, I think!
    Arturo Gatti Not a great fighter but had great fights againsed proper brawlers he was just a name to enhance Floyds(arent they all)
    Jesus Chavez Good fighter, good performance.
    Carlos Baldomir The worst undisputed champion since....fuck knows

    Manny Pacquiao's best wins.

    Erik Morales x2
    MAB X2
    JMM
    ODLH
    Jorge Solis
    Oscar Larios
    Jorge Eliecer Julio
    David Diaz

    But i do think Manny Pacquiao isn't that far off a few more big wins, and he could easily surpass Floyd Mayweather. But i still think he is somewhat behind, plus Floyd Mayweather also has the better achievements.
    Just a couple of comments on some of Floyds fights.

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