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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
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    If you aren't using the Lacy fight as a bases for your statement that Calzaghe has the "style" to beat Hagler, you must be thinking about the Leonard fight? Who has Calzaghe fought that is close to Hagler's style? Calzaghe has proved that he as the style to beat guys who come forward without a plan (Lacy) or with only one plan (Kessler), and guys throw one punch at a time (Hopkins and Jones).

    I only brought up Lacy because I assuming you had that fight in mind when considering the two styles, but you must be thinking that Calzaghe would fight him like Leonard did.

    Question, do you thing Calzaghe would be able to pitty-pat and run like Leonard did? That's the only style the "beat" Hagler, and it only worked on an old Marvin. Does Calzaghe have the footspeed of Ray Leonard? I'm not sure Calzaghe has the legs run like Leonard for 12 rounds. Calzaghe is going to engage, and that provides Hagler with opportunity.
    At middleweight SRL had no punch power.His corner even told him not to load up on his shots.

    Everybody says that Hagler was past his best when he boxed SRL which is true,but dont forget SRL was past his best as well and also fighting at a new weight for the first time in 4 years.

    YES I think Calzaghe could move and box Hagler over 12 rounds.I think he could beat Hagler to the punch then move or just change the angle a bit.
    Calzaghe would not risk going toe to toe with Hagler unless he could feel him wilting which is unlightly.

    I am not saying it would be an easy fight for Joe but on his night he could beat MMH.
    SRL stopped a Light Heavyweight Donny LaLonde who was a pretty big guy, so i disagree that SRL had no punching power at Middleweight or above.
    Point I was trying to make is that SRL was not trying to hit Hagler with hard shots.

    The punches he hit him with had nothing on them.Ray has said that himself in the past.

    As Tommy Hearns found out there is no point trying to KO Hagler coz he is as hard as they come so you got to try and out box him and out think him which Duran came close to doing and SRL did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
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    At middleweight SRL had no punch power.His corner even told him not to load up on his shots.

    Everybody says that Hagler was past his best when he boxed SRL which is true,but dont forget SRL was past his best as well and also fighting at a new weight for the first time in 4 years.

    YES I think Calzaghe could move and box Hagler over 12 rounds.I think he could beat Hagler to the punch then move or just change the angle a bit.
    Calzaghe would not risk going toe to toe with Hagler unless he could feel him wilting which is unlightly.

    I am not saying it would be an easy fight for Joe but on his night he could beat MMH.
    SRL stopped a Light Heavyweight Donny LaLonde who was a pretty big guy, so i disagree that SRL had no punching power at Middleweight or above.
    Point I was trying to make is that SRL was not trying to hit Hagler with hard shots.

    The punches he hit him with had nothing on them.Ray has said that himself in the past.

    As Tommy Hearns found out there is no point trying to KO Hagler coz he is as hard as they come so you got to try and out box him and out think him which Duran came close to doing and SRL did.
    True true. Leonard admits his whole game was to steal rounds and didn't bother trying to inflict damage.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe-Hagler?

    Its all about styles.

    For example Ken Norten who was a good HW had the style to give Ali trouble who was in most peoples mind the best HW ever.


    Hagler is the greater fighter if you were to make a list but IMO Calzaghe has the style to give him a lot of trouble and even beat him.


    I must add its good to have quality debat for a change instead of a slagging match.
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