Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
Bilbo, still trying to close thinsg down..

A few final issues, for me anyways...

Just to confirm, you are saying that all possible cases of humanoid ancestors have been rejected as false by the scientific community.
Sedimentary rock is not just that which is formed by deposits layed down by water. It can also be particles or materials of just about any kind, laid down over time by any method, and over time turned into rock. In other words yes, the bones that we find are mostly buried. Those exposed to the elements would have vanished by now.

It's not so much that we differ in our presuppositions. We also differ in our opinions of what constitutes evidence. We also differ in our definitions of what constitutes fact and theory.

Disagreeement on time is obviously a big issue. I would say that a dating method should not be rejected out of hand because it is known to sometimes produce innacurate results. I'd say we differ there. People often mistakenly reject things in this way, rejecting the whole concept on the basis of a few examples.

I'll tell you another issue I am willing to bet we differ fundamentally on. What comes first, the evidence or the theory? (story, explanation, whatever).

There isn't a single speciman that isn't rejected by parts of the evolutionary community. Basically in a nutshell, the finder and his team will attempt to promote and elavate their own discovery to being that of a true missing link, others in the scientific community will reject outright the notion and provide evidence against such classification.

There are few discoveries in science that could be more prestigious to its discovery than finding the mythical missing link between apes and man, it's the Holy Grail of evolutionary research and every paleontologist attempts (and undoubtably believes) that their find is THE missing link.

Eugene Dubios, Don Johannson, Mary and Richard Leakey, Raymod Dart for example are all world famous paelontologists who have insisted their finds were the missing links against the agreement of the rest of the evolutionary community.


I should say I hold no religious agenda either. Yes I believe in God, but I'm not a practicing Christian. As a teen growing up I wanted to be an evolutionist and paleontologist and help discover proof's of evolution and how we evolved from apes.

I loved the theory but wanted to know all about it and find the evidence for it rather than just know the story. For a couple of years I researched it intently and simply could not find any evidence to support the theory at all that couldn't explained in a completely different way, nearly always in a way that seemed to better fit the actual evidence.


If you believe in evolution that's fine for you, I have no interest in trying to 'convert' or dissuade you. I will just maintain however that as someone who has studied the debates on both sides for the last 15 years or so that evolutionary belief is the biggest myth of modern times with not a single piece of real evidence to support it.