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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    This is pretty cool.Waiting on the arrival.Someone fill him in on the Juarez "If at first,second,third,etc you don't succeed" factor though.He better bring his own refs based on the azz backwards scoring prior to Barrios falling late in their fight..........Just wish John was blessed with Huge KO power to make judges a non factor.
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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    I see little in John that impresses me. Him beating Rocky "Can't win the big one" Juarez means little to me. But it's a start.

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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Getting out of Asia period is a start...

    I think this fight has snooze fest written allover it.
    I think it's a bad matchup as far as styles go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Getting out of Asia period is a start...

    I think this fight has snooze fest written allover it.
    I think it's a bad matchup as far as styles go.
    This is going to be like the 5th time HBO televises Juarez in Houston. Show Time did it once. What the fukk does Juarez have over them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Getting out of Asia period is a start...

    I think this fight has snooze fest written allover it.
    I think it's a bad matchup as far as styles go.
    This is going to be like the 5th time HBO televises Juarez in Houston. Show Time did it once. What the fukk does Juarez have over them?
    How crazy would it be if they robbed John of his title and "gave" the fight to Juarez?

    That would be some shit...

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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Chris "THE DRAGON" John stopping Rocky Juarez in Houston will be a very impressive performance since even JMM didn't able to stop a one eyed Rocky Juarez... Juarez is a very tough hombre... A KO/TKO win over Juarez will also put added clamor for John-JMM rematch fight possibly at 130 lbs...

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    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.

    Agreed on Juarez only losing in some tough bouts against the elite...The guy is no push over...UI remember when he srtarted out once he came in off the olympic team.....I thought he was going to be a dominate force in the sport.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Chris "THE DRAGON" John stopping Rocky Juarez in Houston will be a very impressive performance since even JMM didn't able to stop a one eyed Rocky Juarez... Juarez is a very tough hombre... A KO/TKO win over Juarez will also put added clamor for John-JMM rematch fight possibly at 130 lbs...
    I think Marquez has moved on to bigger, better things after his fight with John. I honestly don't think he wants to fight him again. Like I said before, he's still trying to find that angle to get him another fight with Pacquiao.

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.
    Thank you! John was given a gift against JMM. And again, YES! Karma is a b*tch and I hope John outboxes Juarez and still loses a decision cause what goes around come around.

    Does anyone have the official scorecards from the JMM vs Chris John fight?

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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Never seen John fight. Hope they show this one on Setanta.

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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Chris "THE DRAGON" John stopping Rocky Juarez in Houston will be a very impressive performance since even JMM didn't able to stop a one eyed Rocky Juarez... Juarez is a very tough hombre... A KO/TKO win over Juarez will also put added clamor for John-JMM rematch fight possibly at 130 lbs...
    I think Marquez has moved on to bigger, better things after his fight with John. I honestly don't think he wants to fight him again. Like I said before, he's still trying to find that angle to get him another fight with Pacquiao.

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.
    Thank you! John was given a gift against JMM. And again, YES! Karma is a b*tch and I hope John outboxes Juarez and still loses a decision cause what goes around come around.

    Does anyone have the official scorecards from the JMM vs Chris John fight?
    I'm not sure John has what it takes to totally outclass Juarez, and that might be what it takes to beat him in Houston. Juarez is actually very skilled and an excellent counterpuncher. The problem is that he isn't fast and he only has one mode of fighting. Barrera played into all of his strengths in the first fight by coming at him and trading. When Barrera boxed him in the second fight, he outclassed him, same as Marquez. In both of those fights, he looked REALLY bad and I think that's why he gets so much hate.

    I'm not sure Chris John is good enough to do that to him. Juarez will be coming forward and he will probably land the bigger punches, and John doesn't have the power to hurt him. Judges today time and time again favor the fighter who moves forward unless the retreating fighter really dominates. This is especially true when the pressing fighter is more or less walking through the other guys shots. Two judges scored the second Barrera fight 115-113 for Barrera and I didn't think it was nearly that close. The one that had it 117-111 nailed it.

    Mick was right, though, it's probably going to be a snoozefest which ever way it goes. I would much rather see Juarez fight Guerrero. That would be a much more entertaining fight and I would favor Juarez for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.

    Agreed on Juarez only losing in some tough bouts against the elite...The guy is no push over...UI remember when he srtarted out once he came in off the olympic team.....I thought he was going to be a dominate force in the sport.....
    It seems to me he has a style that really better suited for the amateurs. He's technically very good and only lets his hands go when he can land nice clean blows that everybody can see. I think that's why he does well with judges. When he lands, you know it. If he had better one shot power, he'd really be something. I don't think he gets enough credit for the Barrios win. He was landing the clean hard shots (albeit one at a time) all night, and I wasn't surprised that he stopped Barrios late.

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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.

    Agreed on Juarez only losing in some tough bouts against the elite...The guy is no push over...UI remember when he srtarted out once he came in off the olympic team.....I thought he was going to be a dominate force in the sport.....
    It seems to me he has a style that really better suited for the amateurs. He's technically very good and only lets his hands go when he can land nice clean blows that everybody can see. I think that's why he does well with judges. When he lands, you know it. If he had better one shot power, he'd really be something. I don't think he gets enough credit for the Barrios win. He was landing the clean hard shots (albeit one at a time) all night, and I wasn't surprised that he stopped Barrios late.
    Great way to size Juarez up...I agree with the style comment...That has happened to a few fighters in the past who had great amateur careers...

    I think Henry Tillman fell into tht catagory
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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, gave and very close fights with Barrera and Soto. He KO'd Barrios. Juarez has losses, but they have been against the highest level of competition. Chris John has beaten nobody except getting a total gift decision against JMM.

    Stylistically, this is a bad matchup all around, but this is no slam dunk for John, especially in Houston. Personally, I hope John gets robbed in a close fight. It will be justice for the Marquez fight.
    The Raheem fight was a gift. And the Barrios fight was turning into one. I can easily see him getting another gift against John

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    Default Re: Chris John: Finally coming to America

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Chris "THE DRAGON" John stopping Rocky Juarez in Houston will be a very impressive performance since even JMM didn't able to stop a one eyed Rocky Juarez... Juarez is a very tough hombre... A KO/TKO win over Juarez will also put added clamor for John-JMM rematch fight possibly at 130 lbs...
    I think Marquez has moved on to bigger, better things after his fight with John. I honestly don't think he wants to fight him again. Like I said before, he's still trying to find that angle to get him another fight with Pacquiao.

    I guess John also doesn't care if JMM will be willing to have a rematch with him or not. He got the "W"... John even doesn't care if he fights out of Asia or not...

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