Hopkins says he will retire if he can't get rematch with Calzaghe

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Hopkins sucked the first fight, nobody wants to see him whine and hold his nuts for a second fight.

[JazMerkin]

To the person who said that JC won't give B-Hop a rematch because he wasn't gracious in defeat, I think that Joe is hardly in a position to talk about that, particularly after some of his comments recently, such as the stuff about boxing being finished.

Regards to a rematch, although I thought Hopkins won the first fight, I would much rather see Joe go up against Dawson to shore up his 'legacy'. Although I have soured on Calzaghe a bit over the last 9 months or so, I still think he is one hell of a boxer & has got a lot left so would love to see him go up against Dawson to really let us know just how good he is. At the moment the fact remains that his record just doesn't stand up to his contemporaries, even if some of them have lost fights, because there are a maximum of 6 fighters who you could argue as competitive contests & some believe he lost 2 of those (Reid & Hopkins).

To be honest as someone who is a fan of both Calzaghe & Hopkins (I know, one of the few ), I would like B-Hop to retire on the Pavlik victory & Calzaghe to have one last fight in Cardiff against Dawson because I think he's got it in him, and really were he to win it would be much harder for his critics to have a go at him

[CFH]

To the person who said that JC won't give B-Hop a rematch because he wasn't gracious in defeat, I think that Joe is hardly in a position to talk about that, particularly after some of his comments recently, such as the stuff about boxing being finished.

Regards to a rematch, although I thought Hopkins won the first fight, I would much rather see Joe go up against Dawson to shore up his 'legacy'. Although I have soured on Calzaghe a bit over the last 9 months or so, I still think he is one hell of a boxer & has got a lot left so would love to see him go up against Dawson to really let us know just how good he is. At the moment the fact remains that his record just doesn't stand up to his contemporaries, even if some of them have lost fights, because there are a maximum of 6 fighters who you could argue as competitive contests & some believe he lost 2 of those (Reid & Hopkins).

To be honest as someone who is a fan of both Calzaghe & Hopkins (I know, one of the few ), I would like B-Hop to retire on the Pavlik victory & Calzaghe to have one last fight in Cardiff against Dawson because I think he's got it in him, and really were he to win it would be much harder for his critics to have a go at him

Excellent post, I agree with almost everything you say (which is why it must be an excellent post )

[Kel]

To the person who said that JC won't give B-Hop a rematch because he wasn't gracious in defeat, I think that Joe is hardly in a position to talk about that, particularly after some of his comments recently, such as the stuff about boxing being finished.

Regards to a rematch, although I thought Hopkins won the first fight, I would much rather see Joe go up against Dawson to shore up his 'legacy'. Although I have soured on Calzaghe a bit over the last 9 months or so, I still think he is one hell of a boxer & has got a lot left so would love to see him go up against Dawson to really let us know just how good he is. At the moment the fact remains that his record just doesn't stand up to his contemporaries, even if some of them have lost fights, because there are a maximum of 6 fighters who you could argue as competitive contests & some believe he lost 2 of those (Reid & Hopkins).

To be honest as someone who is a fan of both Calzaghe & Hopkins (I know, one of the few ), I would like B-Hop to retire on the Pavlik victory & Calzaghe to have one last fight in Cardiff against Dawson because I think he's got it in him, and really were he to win it would be much harder for his critics to have a go at him

Lacy was undefeated and so was Kessler, if he beat Dawson he would just slip into the list of hopefulls. Really, who would give Joe anymore credit than he already has?

[CFH]

To the person who said that JC won't give B-Hop a rematch because he wasn't gracious in defeat, I think that Joe is hardly in a position to talk about that, particularly after some of his comments recently, such as the stuff about boxing being finished.

Regards to a rematch, although I thought Hopkins won the first fight, I would much rather see Joe go up against Dawson to shore up his 'legacy'. Although I have soured on Calzaghe a bit over the last 9 months or so, I still think he is one hell of a boxer & has got a lot left so would love to see him go up against Dawson to really let us know just how good he is. At the moment the fact remains that his record just doesn't stand up to his contemporaries, even if some of them have lost fights, because there are a maximum of 6 fighters who you could argue as competitive contests & some believe he lost 2 of those (Reid & Hopkins).

To be honest as someone who is a fan of both Calzaghe & Hopkins (I know, one of the few ), I would like B-Hop to retire on the Pavlik victory & Calzaghe to have one last fight in Cardiff against Dawson because I think he's got it in him, and really were he to win it would be much harder for his critics to have a go at him

Lacy was undefeated and so was Kessler, if he beat Dawson he would just slip into the list of hopefulls. Really

The problem is that neither of those two fighters have proven anything following their defeats to Calzaghe, thus diminishing the victories. I think a few years from now the Kessler victory will look very impressive though.

[Kel]

To the person who said that JC won't give B-Hop a rematch because he wasn't gracious in defeat, I think that Joe is hardly in a position to talk about that, particularly after some of his comments recently, such as the stuff about boxing being finished.

Regards to a rematch, although I thought Hopkins won the first fight, I would much rather see Joe go up against Dawson to shore up his 'legacy'. Although I have soured on Calzaghe a bit over the last 9 months or so, I still think he is one hell of a boxer & has got a lot left so would love to see him go up against Dawson to really let us know just how good he is. At the moment the fact remains that his record just doesn't stand up to his contemporaries, even if some of them have lost fights, because there are a maximum of 6 fighters who you could argue as competitive contests & some believe he lost 2 of those (Reid & Hopkins).

To be honest as someone who is a fan of both Calzaghe & Hopkins (I know, one of the few ), I would like B-Hop to retire on the Pavlik victory & Calzaghe to have one last fight in Cardiff against Dawson because I think he's got it in him, and really were he to win it would be much harder for his critics to have a go at him

Lacy was undefeated and so was Kessler, if he beat Dawson he would just slip into the list of hopefulls. Really

The problem is that neither of those two fighters have proven anything following their defeats to Calzaghe, thus diminishing the victories. I think a few years from now the Kessler victory will look very impressive though.

Oh no, I agree mate, but say Calzaghe beat Dawson, how long would it take for him to beat a top guy after that?

Joe would still be in question till Dawson did something special

[JazMerkin]

Lacy was undefeated and so was Kessler, if he beat Dawson he would just slip into the list of hopefulls. Really

The problem is that neither of those two fighters have proven anything following their defeats to Calzaghe, thus diminishing the victories. I think a few years from now the Kessler victory will look very impressive though.

Oh no, I agree mate, but say Calzaghe beat Dawson, how long would it take for him to beat a top guy after that?

Joe would still be in question till Dawson did something special

I agree that might happen & there is always going to be a new young guy for a top fighter. The problem is he still doesn't have ENOUGH quality names on his record, and I think you can only argue that one of those fighters was a top-tier, prime fighter & that's Kessler. Eubank, Hopkins & Jones Jr were all some way past their peak, whilst Lacy & Reid were just frankly not on the same level as Joe. Anyone who's knows a bit about boxing can tell just how good Dawson is. The fact is if he won that fight than I think it would kill off a lot of the doubts that remain about him. It would at least add another top name to gloss over fighting the likes of Tocker Pudwill, Jimenez & Mario Veit (TWICE!)

[Fenster]

The problem is that neither of those two fighters have proven anything following their defeats to Calzaghe, thus diminishing the victories. I think a few years from now the Kessler victory will look very impressive though.

Oh no, I agree mate, but say Calzaghe beat Dawson, how long would it take for him to beat a top guy after that?

Joe would still be in question till Dawson did something special

I agree that might happen & there is always going to be a new young guy for a top fighter. The problem is he still doesn't have ENOUGH quality names on his record, and I think you can only argue that one of those fighters was a top-tier, prime fighter & that's Kessler. Eubank, Hopkins & Jones Jr were all some way past their peak, whilst Lacy & Reid were just frankly not on the same level as Joe. Anyone who's knows a bit about boxing can tell just how good Dawson is. The fact is if he won that fight than I think it would kill off a lot of the doubts that remain about him. It would at least add another top name to gloss over fighting the likes of Tocker Pudwill, Jimenez & Mario Veit (TWICE!)

That's exactly what many people said before he beat Lacy... and then before Kessler... and then before Hopkins... and then even before old Roy