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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I'm sure the liberals will do MUCH better they had nothing to do with Fannie and Freddie or forcing banks to lend money hell Barney Frank is STILL trying to force banks to lend money to people who can't pay it back....how can you support that stupid fucking queen and his cronies??
    Like millions of US conservatives you really are impervious to facts and evidence. I already explained to you how F and F were an irrelevant part of the whole financial meltdown yet it's just implanted in your brain that they were. And that Jimmy Carter and some guy on the current Senate Banking committee are responsible for the whole thing. This is why the mass gayification of the American south is inevitable. You've given Obama no choice but to drop WMGs on the lot of you because you just can't be trusted with your votes. You could well vote for another clown who could fuck the economy up worse than the current guy managed. We just can't afford to take that risk. Soon enoughyou're going to be attracted to barney Frank.

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    Have fun buddy but come January 20th YOU own all the problems and you are going to catch shit for it. Try and enjoy the next few years as I and many others will be waiting for the first little slip like for example a guy nominated to a cabinet position who hasn't paid taxes in a while

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    I got pretty pumped at the "bring em on" line...but then again I get paid to shoot insurgents...Not the best we've had and not the worst, but I liked that he wasn't always PC. I expect little of the presidency other than to have a strong proactive foreign policy...His worked for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    I got pretty pumped at the "bring em on" line...but then again I get paid to shoot insurgents...Not the best we've had and not the worst, but I liked that he wasn't always PC. I expect little of the presidency other than to have a strong proactive foreign policy...His worked for me.

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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Have fun buddy but come January 20th YOU own all the problems and you are going to catch shit for it. Try and enjoy the next few years as I and many others will be waiting for the first little slip like for example a guy nominated to a cabinet position who hasn't paid taxes in a while
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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    I'm not so sure Lyle likes this thread.

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    No, unfortunately I have yet to remember a time when Lyle has been persuaded he was initially wrong about anything.

    That takes away the point of debate really - once you end up arguing with someone who just wants to prove they are right, or who'se ultimate aim is to turn you to their point of view, then it's not really a debate.

    Lots of people - and I'm not particularly having a pop at Lyle here - find it too hard to listen at the same time they are talking. Ol Dubya fits that bill perfectly.

    Still, you can't help but find some of the true quotes that Dubya has made to be quite funny. Genuinely, anybody who come out with stuff like that has at best a 'confused' mind. Quality - we will miss having the idiot around, a bit like a drunken gurning uncle at your best friend's wedding.
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    No, unfortunately I have yet to remember a time when Lyle has been persuaded he was initially wrong about anything.

    That takes away the point of debate really - once you end up arguing with someone who just wants to prove they are right, or who'se ultimate aim is to turn you to their point of view, then it's not really a debate.

    Lots of people - and I'm not particularly having a pop at Lyle here - find it too hard to listen at the same time they are talking. Ol Dubya fits that bill perfectly.

    Still, you can't help but find some of the true quotes that Dubya has made to be quite funny. Genuinely, anybody who come out with stuff like that has at best a 'confused' mind. Quality - we will miss having the idiot around, a bit like a drunken gurning uncle at your best friend's wedding.
    Considering his father cant speak English either,is it any surprise that he says stuff like that?

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    Default Re: So long, Dubya

    You only ever see numbers that high for a president after a national disaster, which tells you how Americans view the Bush administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    You only ever see numbers that high for a president after a national disaster, which tells you how Americans view the Bush administration.
    Most of the world viewed him as a puppet for his dad and his old office mates more so when he took up his dads original fight against Iraq.

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    I though I would never say this being a big Bush critic, but I think im gonna miss W a little bit. He wasnt a great president, but he always did what he thought was right for this country. He was at least was firm in his beliefs. Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world. That said, he did f@ck up a lot.

    As for Obama, I want to like him but every time I hear him speak he sounds like an actor to me. He didnt even write his speech. If he was such an inspirational and great thinker, wouldnt he have written his own speech? I think he is a great public speaker and has a good image, but he hasnt had to be much else as of yet, well today he became the most powerful person in this country. I think, like a good amateur boxer going pro, there is a lot of hype but anything of substance has yet to be seen. Talk is cheap, but he is the president now, so I hope he amounts to a good one, not just a good campaigner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    I though I would never say this being a big Bush critic, but I think im gonna miss W a little bit. He wasnt a great president, but he always did what he thought was right for this country. He was at least was firm in his beliefs. Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world. That said, he did f@ck up a lot.

    As for Obama, I want to like him but every time I hear him speak he sounds like an actor to me. He didnt even write his speech. If he was such an inspirational and great thinker, wouldnt he have written his own speech? I think he is a great public speaker and has a good image, but he hasnt had to be much else as of yet, well today he became the most powerful person in this country. I think, like a good amateur boxer going pro, there is a lot of hype but anything of substance has yet to be seen. Talk is cheap, but he is the president now, so I hope he amounts to a good one, not just a good campaigner.
    Actually he did write most of it himself,and Bush cant even read the speeches handed to him,let alone write one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    I though I would never say this being a big Bush critic, but I think im gonna miss W a little bit. He wasnt a great president, but he always did what he thought was right for this country. He was at least was firm in his beliefs. Also, everyone fails to mention that since Sept. 11, there hasnt been a terrorist attack in this country. He deserves credit for keeping the country safe in a post 9-11 world. That said, he did f@ck up a lot.
    Well, I'm not going to miss him. I won't be applying the soft gaze of revisionism on him and his regime.

    Saying he always did what he thought was right isn't great praise if he was consistently wrong all the time, and being firm in his beliefs is a nicer way of saying that he was stubborn, misguided and not open to reason (a political fundamentalist, if you like)

    Indeed, there has not been a publicised terrorist attack in the US since the Twin Towers, but at what cost to your world image and to your own freedoms and rights? Incidentally, don't forget that there had not been a terrorist attack in the US EVER before that idiot came into power.

    Unfortunately, to me anyway -Bush will always be a semi-bordeline buffoon (the aggressive yet slightly retarded younger brother who everyone ignores at barbecues) who only got into power because he was backed by big corporate business, the oil US defence and industry and by stealing a second election.

    Good riddance. The world is suddenly a safer place already.

    I hope you guys are not kidding yourself that you voted in a black president because you are all suddenly an equal society...... Barack won the election simply by being not Bush or McCain.

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