No, unfortunately I have yet to remember a time when Lyle has been persuaded he was initially wrong about anything.

That takes away the point of debate really - once you end up arguing with someone who just wants to prove they are right, or who'se ultimate aim is to turn you to their point of view, then it's not really a debate.

Lots of people - and I'm not particularly having a pop at Lyle here - find it too hard to listen at the same time they are talking. Ol Dubya fits that bill perfectly.

Still, you can't help but find some of the true quotes that Dubya has made to be quite funny. Genuinely, anybody who come out with stuff like that has at best a 'confused' mind. Quality - we will miss having the idiot around, a bit like a drunken gurning uncle at your best friend's wedding.