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[Violent Demise]

Oh yeah forgot to say that i firmly believe Haye has the tools to do a number on Wlad and in style for that matter...
Vitali is a totally different fighter and a seasoned and granite chin monster.
If Haye beat Vitali i'd be shocked and i have ALWAYS said that.
Anyone struggles against Vitali.

You know Michael Grant had the tools to be champion. So did Andrew Golata. Hell Fraudrey Harrison himself wasn't without tools. Having tools don't mean shiit. I don't think Haye has the heart, stamina or chin to be Heavyweight champion. Yeah maybe down the line I can see Haye picking up a vacant WBO or IBO title. But he'll never be the man at Heavyweight.

[Memphis]

Haye doesnt have heart how?

[SteamBoat]

is it just me or does anyone else think that the wlad fight will be harder for david than vitali

seeing that the younger one has a better jab, uses his head more than his heart,the fact he is in his prime.

dont get me wrong i dont believe david has a chance against either of them but if you listen to what davids fans say that his speed will beat (his power at heavywieght isn't going to be enough to put wlad down) the brothers wouldn't you want to have the slower and 'ring rusty' brother. i just cant see how he's getting passed wlads jab enough to be doing enough damage.

[Memphis]

I dont see Haye decisioning either of them, he has to stop them to win. He might be able to stop Wlad, he wont be able to stop Vitali unless he falls apart pretty quickly.

Wlad is still the most plausable win for Haye.

[AdamGB]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

[Violent Demise]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

[DaxxKahn]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....

[AdamGB]

haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

You're a funny fucker VD.

You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

When did I say that he had no talent? learn to read you fucking retard.

A common view held by arm chair fans is that Fraudley has all of the talent to be champ, but just isn't using it. It's not surprise to see you shooting from a similar angle.

While he would certainatly be a lot better if he fought with more heart, fortitude and assertion (all of which are Talents that haye has and harrison lacks) he has serious flaws in his game.

Fair enough he has the physique and athletism to be a great heavyweight but that isn't the same as possesing the boxing talent as a pro that Haye has.

The real issue here is not why Audley isn't a sucsess but that you think David Haye doesn't have more talent than Audley does.

Do you honestly think that the only reason Audley circles off the back foot pawing his jab out to keep smaller/older/weaker fighters away from him is because he is scared of them? please

I think what you are doing is confusing physical attributes with boxing skill and talent.

I hate to interupt your little tangent but can you please tell me were I said harrison didn't have any talent/potential?

The fact is though that Haye can fight assertivly, he can trade, he can be in the pocket, he will let his opponents come to him so he can do his work. Audley can't so doesn't... even against polish binmen and old journey men

haye was a very successful amateur and no doubt Audley was too, the difference is that Audley harrison reached his level, the amount of talent he has has taken him as far as he's going to go in th pro ranks, he fights so negativly to try and make up for this.