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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

    You're a funny fucker VD.
    You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.

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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

    You're a funny fucker VD.
    You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.
    Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

    I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

    You're a funny fucker VD.
    You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.
    Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

    I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....
    But you know what's up Daxx. I rarely quote your comments any more. Cuz I usually agree with them. You know Boxing. You know Harrison is crap. A failure. But you also know his failure wasn't due to lack of talent. The dumb fukk I quote earlier on doesn't know that. He just goes along with the public perception that Harrison is crap (which he is) but has no idea why.

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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.
    Audley has all the talent in the world....Sadly he does not have the fortitude needed to succeeed....I remember the first time I had seen him as a pro...(Saw him as an amateur several times and in Sydney I followed him).....Think it was against Julius Long...I was impressed with how easily he dealt with the size...Then breaking Calloways jaw causing him to quit...

    I thought he would be world champion despite his age long ago....
    But you know what's up Daxx. I rarely quote your comments any more. Cuz I usually agree with them. You know Boxing. You know Harrison is crap. A failure. But you also know his failure wasn't due to lack of talent. The dumb fukk I quote earlier on doesn't know that. He just goes along with the public perception that Harrison is crap (which he is) but has no idea why.

    Thats why I said he has Talent...just not the rest that is needed to go along with being successful.....Hell the guy has size, good power and can box....His chin is better then people give credit for....He just seems to screw up everytime it counts.......Yeah he is crap but like you said not because of talent....

    Hell Zab Judah is crap but he is also one of the most talented fighters of this era
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    lol

    Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye
    Last edited by Fenster; 01-16-2009 at 11:42 AM.
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    lol

    Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye
    What they have to realise is that the talent of boxing is mostly mental... look at James Toney for god's sake.

    There are plenty of great athletes who have the physique for boxing but not the head for it.

    audley may have the athletism to make it right to the top but he doesn't have the head (TALENT!) to do so.

    it's like putting a Nascar driver in an F1 car
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    This is stupid the OP clearly is allowing his hatred to blind him. Haye has already become the man at Cruiser within 21 fights proving himself a credible fighter.

    To be honest you just come across as being slow for insulting the Champion from Cruiser and dismissing him despite the way he has already proven he is a talented fighter.

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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    lol

    Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye
    What they have to realise is that the talent of boxing is mostly mental... look at James Toney for god's sake.

    There are plenty of great athletes who have the physique for boxing but not the head for it.

    audley may have the athletism to make it right to the top but he doesn't have the head (TALENT!) to do so.

    it's like putting a Nascar driver in an F1 car

    Since you quote they that includes me since it is only VD and I who are speaking about Audley...

    I think I mentioned about him having all the skill but not the fortitude.....Basically the exact same thing you said
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    lol

    Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye

    Fenster you should know by...

    This is boxing anything can Happen
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    lol

    Two Americans singing the praises of Audley in a thread designed to slate Haye

    Fenster you should know by...

    This is boxing anything can Happen


    I love the irony here though.
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    Default Re: Classified information 4 Smashup & the Haye followers

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    haha... David Haye has the same mentality as Fraudley Harrison? Fraudley is in the same league talent wise?

    You're a funny fucker VD.
    You don't think Harrison had talent? Damn you really don't know shitt about Boxing do you? Lack of talent was never Harrison's problem.
    When did I say that he had no talent? learn to read you fucking retard.

    A common view held by arm chair fans is that Fraudley has all of the talent to be champ, but just isn't using it. It's not surprise to see you shooting from a similar angle.

    While he would certainatly be a lot better if he fought with more heart, fortitude and assertion (all of which are Talents that haye has and harrison lacks) he has serious flaws in his game.

    Fair enough he has the physique and athletism to be a great heavyweight but that isn't the same as possesing the boxing talent as a pro that Haye has.

    The real issue here is not why Audley isn't a sucsess but that you think David Haye doesn't have more talent than Audley does.

    Do you honestly think that the only reason Audley circles off the back foot pawing his jab out to keep smaller/older/weaker fighters away from him is because he is scared of them? please

    I think what you are doing is confusing physical attributes with boxing skill and talent.

    I hate to interupt your little tangent but can you please tell me were I said harrison didn't have any talent/potential?

    The fact is though that Haye can fight assertivly, he can trade, he can be in the pocket, he will let his opponents come to him so he can do his work. Audley can't so doesn't... even against polish binmen and old journey men

    haye was a very successful amateur and no doubt Audley was too, the difference is that Audley harrison reached his level, the amount of talent he has has taken him as far as he's going to go in th pro ranks, he fights so negativly to try and make up for this.

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