I'm not so sure Lyle likes this thread.
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I'm not so sure Lyle likes this thread.
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No, unfortunately I have yet to remember a time when Lyle has been persuaded he was initially wrong about anything.
That takes away the point of debate really - once you end up arguing with someone who just wants to prove they are right, or who'se ultimate aim is to turn you to their point of view, then it's not really a debate.
Lots of people - and I'm not particularly having a pop at Lyle here - find it too hard to listen at the same time they are talking. Ol Dubya fits that bill perfectly.
Still, you can't help but find some of the true quotes that Dubya has made to be quite funny. Genuinely, anybody who come out with stuff like that has at best a 'confused' mind. Quality - we will miss having the idiot around, a bit like a drunken gurning uncle at your best friend's wedding.
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Considering his father cant speak English either,is it any surprise that he says stuff like that?Originally Posted by X
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You only ever see numbers that high for a president after a national disaster, which tells you how Americans view the Bush administration.
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Most of the world viewed him as a puppet for his dad and his old office mates more so when he took up his dads original fight against Iraq.You only ever see numbers that high for a president after a national disaster, which tells you how Americans view the Bush administration.
Old ways are about to die off in the world thank God ,but unfortunatley they will have their last shot at war and more unrest before they are all gone,that goes for both sides who are killing in the name of.
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I watched ABC, you could tell the announcers were getting a bit sentimental when George was getting on the helicopter, trying to come up with nice things to say about him, I decided instead on the laughter and tears of joy route.
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George who? ..........
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Most of the world viewed him as a puppet for his dad and his old office mates more so when he took up his dads original fight against Iraq.You only ever see numbers that high for a president after a national disaster, which tells you how Americans view the Bush administration.
Old ways are about to die off in the world thank God ,but unfortunatley they will have their last shot at war and more unrest before they are all gone,that goes for both sides who are killing in the name of.
Joschka Fischer, German foreign minister and vice-chancellor: We thought we were going back to the old days of Bush 41. And ironically enough Rumsfeld, but even more Cheney, together with Powell, were seen as indications that the young president, who was not used to the outside world, who didn’t travel very much, who didn’t seem to be very experienced, would be embedded into these Bush 41 guys. Their foreign-policy skills were extremely good and strongly admired. So we were not very concerned. Of course, there was this strange thing with these “neocons,” but every party has its fringes. It was not very alarming.
Lawrence Wilkerson, top aide and later chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell: We had this confluence of characters—and I use that term very carefully—that included people like Powell, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, and so forth, which allowed one perception to be “the dream team.” It allowed everybody to believe that this Sarah Palin–like president—because, let’s face it, that’s what he was—was going to be protected by this national-security elite, tested in the cauldrons of fire. What in effect happened was that a very astute, probably the most astute, bureaucratic entrepreneur I’ve ever run into in my life became the vice president of the United States.
He became vice president well before George Bush picked him. And he began to manipulate things from that point on, knowing that he was going to be able to convince this guy to pick him, knowing that he was then going to be able to wade into the vacuums that existed around George Bush—personality vacuum, character vacuum, details vacuum, experience vacuum.
Richard Clarke, chief White House counterterrorism adviser: We had a couple of meetings with the president, and there were detailed discussions and briefings on cyber-security and often terrorism, and on a classified program. With the cyber-security meeting, he seemed—I was disturbed because he seemed to be trying to impress us, the people who were briefing him. It was as though he wanted these experts, these White House staff guys who had been around for a long time before he got there—didn’t want them buying the rumor that he wasn’t too bright. He was trying—sort of overly trying—to show that he could ask good questions, and kind of yukking it up with Cheney.
The contrast with having briefed his father and Clinton and Gore was so marked. And to be told, frankly, early in the administration, by Condi Rice and [her deputy] Steve Hadley, you know, Don’t give the president a lot of long memos, he’s not a big reader—well, shit. I mean, the president of the United States is not a big reader?
An Oral History of the Bush White House: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com
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