Sergio Martinez finally has an opponent for February 14th - Kermit Cintron

[ClubberLang]

I thought Martinez was officially fighting Santos? That is a much better fight.

Daniel Santos to face Sergio Martinez on revamped card - ESPN

[ICB]

Sergio Martinez sure is getting alot of hype for beating a mediocre fighter, no doubt Sergio Martinez is a good fighter. But he is getting a bit overhyped. And with his low hand style against Kermit Cintron he could be wiped out within 5 rounds. I do think Kermit Cintron's power is somewhat overrated, but i certainly feel enough to stop Sergio Martinez if he catches him that is.

[killersheep]

Sergio Martinez sure is getting alot of hype for beating a mediocre fighter, no doubt Sergio Martinez is a good fighter. But he is getting a bit overhyped. And with his low hand style against Kermit Cintron he could be wiped out within 5 rounds. I do think Kermit Cintron's power is somewhat overrated, but i certainly feel enough to stop Sergio Martinez if he catches him that is.

I don't think Cintron's power is overrated at all, he has the heaviest hands at 147 imo. I do think Martinez's workrate is going to frustrate him though. I'm going with Martinez by wide UD.

[ICB]

Sergio Martinez sure is getting alot of hype for beating a mediocre fighter, no doubt Sergio Martinez is a good fighter. But he is getting a bit overhyped. And with his low hand style against Kermit Cintron he could be wiped out within 5 rounds. I do think Kermit Cintron's power is somewhat overrated, but i certainly feel enough to stop Sergio Martinez if he catches him that is.

I don't think Cintron's power is overrated at all, he has the heaviest hands at 147 imo. I do think Martinez's workrate is going to frustrate him though. I'm going with Martinez by wide UD.

I do think he has heavy hands no doubt but his power is a tad overrated IMO, Jesse Felicano was KO'ed in 4 rounds against light hitting Demetrius Hopkins. And he was also stopped in 1 round getting dropped 3 times against lighting hitting Mike Arnaoutis.

Yet Kermit Cintron never come close to putting Jesse Feliciano down, despite hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. He also recently couldn't stop the smaller Lovemore N'dou, Lovemore N'dou is tough but you would expect he would of stopped the smaller Lovemore N'dou, who spent all his career below Welterweight.

[killersheep]

Sergio Martinez sure is getting alot of hype for beating a mediocre fighter, no doubt Sergio Martinez is a good fighter. But he is getting a bit overhyped. And with his low hand style against Kermit Cintron he could be wiped out within 5 rounds. I do think Kermit Cintron's power is somewhat overrated, but i certainly feel enough to stop Sergio Martinez if he catches him that is.

I don't think Cintron's power is overrated at all, he has the heaviest hands at 147 imo. I do think Martinez's workrate is going to frustrate him though. I'm going with Martinez by wide UD.

I do think he has heavy hands no doubt but his power is a tad overrated IMO, Jesse Felicano was KO'ed in 4 rounds against light hitting Demetrius Hopkins. And he was also stopped in 1 round getting dropped 3 times against lighting hitting Mike Arnaoutis.

Yet Kermit Cintron never come close to putting Jesse Feliciano down, despite hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. He also recently couldn't stop the smaller Lovemore N'dou, Lovemore N'dou is tough but you would expect he would of stopped the smaller Lovemore N'dou, who spent all his career below Welterweight.

I have not seen the Hopkins fight was it a clean KO?
The Arnoutis fight, Feliciano was definately not himself, I mean look at the shots landed by Tsurken and Cintron they were much stronger shots and better leverage.

Honestly Feliciano and N'Dou have some of the best whiskers in the biz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPEVGlJ7wQ

[NPwill]

I don't think Cintron's power is overrated at all, he has the heaviest hands at 147 imo. I do think Martinez's workrate is going to frustrate him though. I'm going with Martinez by wide UD.

I do think he has heavy hands no doubt but his power is a tad overrated IMO, Jesse Felicano was KO'ed in 4 rounds against light hitting Demetrius Hopkins. And he was also stopped in 1 round getting dropped 3 times against lighting hitting Mike Arnaoutis.

Yet Kermit Cintron never come close to putting Jesse Feliciano down, despite hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. He also recently couldn't stop the smaller Lovemore N'dou, Lovemore N'dou is tough but you would expect he would of stopped the smaller Lovemore N'dou, who spent all his career below Welterweight.

I have not seen the Hopkins fight was it a clean KO?
The Arnoutis fight, Feliciano was definately not himself, I mean look at the shots landed by Tsurken and Cintron they were much stronger shots and better leverage.

Honestly Feliciano and N'Dou have some of the best whiskers in the biz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPEVGlJ7wQ

I'm largely in sync with your thinking Killersheep, except your final prediction (and I admit I don't know much about Martinez except for his record and "big" win in his last fight (and Cintron is perceived as overhyped?). Let's remember that in the Feliciano fight, Kerm was on the canvas writhing in pain after the TKO-- claiming he fought 10 rounds having hurt his thunderous right in the first, if not first punch. Was the injury overstated? Perhaps, but perhaps it really was a gutsy/courageous peformance demonstrating once and for all that Kerm has "heart" in fights requiring gutchecks (against everyone not named Tony Margarito). And there are moments in the fights against Reid, Estrada and Suarez where Kerm didn't "wilt" either, and had ample opportunity to.

As for N'dou-- he's never been KOed. By anyone. (I don't think). Kerm goes the distance with him, doesn't get "frustrated" and fights a smart patient fight taking what's given him to get an easy "W". Granted, Martinez is a step up from NDou and a different style entirely-- but Martinez is no Margarito either. But it seems to me Kerm would have been damned by his detractors if he KO'ed N'Dou (only fights one way--landing the big bomb) and equally damned when doesn't get the KO (his power is overated-- that 85% KO rate is an illusion).

[NPwill]

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Walter Matthysse vs Kermit Cintron Great Knockout # 10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPEVGlJ7wQ

Great KO-- I'll just note that Kerm took out Matthysee 4 rounds earlier than Martinez' recent opponent. And is it just me or is Cintron's upper body just huge for 147 and the torque his punches can generate in this clip? Certaintly should have no problem keeping most of his power at 154. My question-- will the extra weight help him at all to absorb a withering body attack (see Margarito II) which Tony may have exposed as vulnerable. I don't think many would have been able to get up from that final perfect shot to the floating rib, but there were times during the fight in which Tony looked like he was close to breaking Kerm in two in terms of the punishment to the body he was giving.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Much better fight than Clottey vs. Cintron IMO.

[CutMeMick]

I think Martinez will TKO, Cintron.

I think Martinez will show a handful of you non-believers he's for real.
(Then again if he does beat Cintron, people will find a way to water that win down to a meaningless win )

Martinez has been polishing his skills I personally think the Santos fight would have been brilliant and a 60/40 chance favorite Santos to win it.
But the matchup would have been great. Fast hands, good power, southpaws, good skills, top shelf ring generalship.

I think Cintrons gonna be baffled by the speed of Martinez.
I see the TKO coming mid-way through the fight.

[Spicoli]

Sergio Martinez sure is getting alot of hype for beating a mediocre fighter, no doubt Sergio Martinez is a good fighter. But he is getting a bit overhyped. And with his low hand style against Kermit Cintron he could be wiped out within 5 rounds. I do think Kermit Cintron's power is somewhat overrated, but i certainly feel enough to stop Sergio Martinez if he catches him that is.

I don't think Cintron's power is overrated at all, he has the heaviest hands at 147 imo. I do think Martinez's workrate is going to frustrate him though. I'm going with Martinez by wide UD.

Frustration,Can see it.If he gos in looking for a bomb instead of boxing...(Feliciano fight) what Manny would try to get into his head....his wanning confidence may resurface.I do think Martinez needs to not be so loosey goose and sit down on power shots with Cintron.

[Kev]

Sergio Martinez sure is getting alot of hype for beating a mediocre fighter, no doubt Sergio Martinez is a good fighter. But he is getting a bit overhyped. And with his low hand style against Kermit Cintron he could be wiped out within 5 rounds. I do think Kermit Cintron's power is somewhat overrated, but i certainly feel enough to stop Sergio Martinez if he catches him that is.

Hey Ice buddy we finally agree on something!

I couldn't believe my ears when Martinez was fighting that Bunema guy.

HBO who up to that point had NEVER EVER even mentioned him in a broadcast before were talking about him like he was Floyd Mayweather. It was embarrassing, they were saying he shouldn't bother with fighting the likes of Vernon Forrest and should instead go straight for a money fight with the likes of Margarito, Mosely or Paul Williams. They were talking about him like they had been championing him for years and that he was a p4p star.

I wouldn't have minded but prior to that fight none of the HBO team had ever mentioned him at all.

Let's see him in with a decent opponent before we proclaim him an all time great is all I'm saying.

If he can bowl Cintron over impressively then we can start calling him a talent.

Until then he's just a guy who dominated a guy nobody had ever heard of and who scored an upset win over a weight drained former champ.

[Diane]

I thought Martinez was officially fighting Santos? That is a much better fight.

Daniel Santos to face Sergio Martinez on revamped card - ESPN

Don King annouced that Santos would take the fight, but Santos never agreed to it. He turned it down because he said that he could not be ready in time.