So CGM, by your own rational you have given a pass to W for Iraq ...."Spreading Democracy" a good cause for a dumb move. Iraq and Somalia and Vietnam and Bay of Pigs and all other failures of the Presidents past and present were usually "Good thoughts but dumb ideas"....it's nice to think that everyone looks to the US and says "damn they are cool, I want to be just like them" but it's not the case especially in the poor countries who when we pay attention to them think we want something from them....which we usually do but still attention is attention.

CFH, I thought Liberals weren't supposed to "HATE"....that's bad mojo