From the heart

[TitoFan]

Oscar destroys Cotto, he totally outboxed Mosley in their second (false), outboxed Trinidad almost every round, made him look foolish and a terrible fighter (and yet lost a decision in his own backyard.... go figure ). Gave (the undersized, Oscar's M.O.) Mayweather the second most competitive fight. Gave Hopkins 6 competitive rounds (utter bullsh*t... he folded like a lawn chair from a grazing body shot). Always fought the best guys (yeah, after they were over-the-hill, or Tito's roadkill), always held his own except against Pacquiao. Don't forget to mention Sturm.

As for Cotto haters? Most people on here love Cotto like no other (not at the beginning... it's been earned fight after hard-fought fight). He is a really good fighter, but his durability is hardly that great, and he isn't the best boxer in the world (nobody's claiming he is, unlike your "DLH walks on water" crap). He's definitely good, and one of my favorite fighters, but Oscar in his prime would have stopped Cotto in 6 (That's your opinion. I personally think it would've been much closer).

Please refer to my comments above.
Have a nice day.

[Taeth]

Oscar destroys Cotto, he totally outboxed Mosley in their second (false), outboxed Trinidad almost every round, made him look foolish and a terrible fighter (and yet lost a decision in his own backyard.... go figure ). Gave (the undersized, Oscar's M.O.) Mayweather the second most competitive fight. Gave Hopkins 6 competitive rounds (utter bullsh*t... he folded like a lawn chair from a grazing body shot). Always fought the best guys (yeah, after they were over-the-hill, or Tito's roadkill), always held his own except against Pacquiao. Don't forget to mention Sturm.

As for Cotto haters? Most people on here love Cotto like no other (not at the beginning... it's been earned fight after hard-fought fight). He is a really good fighter, but his durability is hardly that great, and he isn't the best boxer in the world (nobody's claiming he is, unlike your "DLH walks on water" crap). He's definitely good, and one of my favorite fighters, but Oscar in his prime would have stopped Cotto in 6 (That's your opinion. I personally think it would've been much closer).

Please refer to my comments above.
Have a nice day.

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

[TitoFan]

Oscar destroys Cotto, he totally outboxed Mosley in their second (false), outboxed Trinidad almost every round, made him look foolish and a terrible fighter (and yet lost a decision in his own backyard.... go figure ). Gave (the undersized, Oscar's M.O.) Mayweather the second most competitive fight. Gave Hopkins 6 competitive rounds (utter bullsh*t... he folded like a lawn chair from a grazing body shot). Always fought the best guys (yeah, after they were over-the-hill, or Tito's roadkill), always held his own except against Pacquiao. Don't forget to mention Sturm.

As for Cotto haters? Most people on here love Cotto like no other (not at the beginning... it's been earned fight after hard-fought fight). He is a really good fighter, but his durability is hardly that great, and he isn't the best boxer in the world (nobody's claiming he is, unlike your "DLH walks on water" crap). He's definitely good, and one of my favorite fighters, but Oscar in his prime would have stopped Cotto in 6 (That's your opinion. I personally think it would've been much closer).

Please refer to my comments above.
Have a nice day.

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

I'm sorry dude... but I lost it after the "more of a man" comment.

[Onix]

Please refer to my comments above.
Have a nice day.

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

I'm sorry dude... but I lost it after the "more of a man" comment.

Well at least you didnt reply to his statement with a question, but then again you didnt reply at all. you start to lose credibility.

That was a weird comment though.

[TitoFan]

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

I'm sorry dude... but I lost it after the "more of a man" comment.

Well at least you didnt reply to his statement with a question, but then again you didnt reply at all. you start to lose credibility.

That was a weird comment though.

As hard as this may be for you to believe, your opinion about my credibility matters very little to me.

[Onix]

I'm sorry dude... but I lost it after the "more of a man" comment.

Well at least you didnt reply to his statement with a question, but then again you didnt reply at all. you start to lose credibility.

That was a weird comment though.

As hard as this may be for you to believe, your opinion about my credibility matters very little to me.

Oh I know that, but do you think I am the only one that sees you ducking comments on your posts? Your ducking of debating with someone who challenges your posts is beginning to look like the ducking you say DLH has done against "real WW"

[TitoFan]

Well at least you didnt reply to his statement with a question, but then again you didnt reply at all. you start to lose credibility.

That was a weird comment though.

As hard as this may be for you to believe, your opinion about my credibility matters very little to me.

Oh I know that, but do you think I am the only one that sees you ducking comments on your posts? Your ducking of debating with someone who challenges your posts is beginning to look like the ducking you say DLH has done against "real WW"

A real man speaks for himself, and lets others do their own talking. I don't "duck" anyone who wants to debate, squirt. I ignore fools such as yourself who continue to spout the same sh*t over and over again without stopping to read what others have to say.

Now f*ck off.

[Taeth]

Please refer to my comments above.
Have a nice day.

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

I'm sorry dude... but I lost it after the "more of a man" comment.

Oscar took twice the beating Cotto has ever received, and has still kept on fighting. You can't insult one guy, then say a guy who is worse than him is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[TitoFan]

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

I'm sorry dude... but I lost it after the "more of a man" comment.

Oscar took twice the beating Cotto has ever received, and has still kept on fighting. You can't insult one guy, then say a guy who is worse than him is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You and Onixboy must have a hearing/reading problem. Nowhere have I (or anyone else here, for that matter) claimed Cotto is the best thing since sliced bread. All I do is mention the characteristics I admire about Cotto, and the Cotto-haters come out of the woodwork. As for DLH, I've posted countless of times what it is about the guy that I've never liked. That he's got his positives... yes he does. But he's nowhere near the "boxing god" you and several others make him out to be. You can talk about the DLH-Tito fight all you want. But the fact is, he lost a decision to three Stateside judges in his own backyard. They must've seen something you didn't. Remember, they DIDN'T fight in Puerto Rico. And as for DLH's list of opponents, I've commented good things about some, not-so-good things about others. Among his good victories: Quartey, Genaro Hernandez. But Vargas was damaged goods, as was Mayorga and Oba Carr... all savagely KO'ed by Tito. Coincidence? I call it shrewd planning by Team Oscar.

And finally, yes... Oscar took a savage beating, just like Cotto. But while Oscar took his at the hands of a smaller man handpicked by Oscar to further his legacy, Cotto took his at the hands of someone Oscar chose to ignore. Nothing you, or Onixboy, can say will change those facts.

[hitmanhatton]

Oscar destroys Cotto, he totally outboxed Mosley in their second (false), outboxed Trinidad almost every round, made him look foolish and a terrible fighter (and yet lost a decision in his own backyard.... go figure ). Gave (the undersized, Oscar's M.O.) Mayweather the second most competitive fight. Gave Hopkins 6 competitive rounds (utter bullsh*t... he folded like a lawn chair from a grazing body shot). Always fought the best guys (yeah, after they were over-the-hill, or Tito's roadkill), always held his own except against Pacquiao. Don't forget to mention Sturm.

As for Cotto haters? Most people on here love Cotto like no other (not at the beginning... it's been earned fight after hard-fought fight). He is a really good fighter, but his durability is hardly that great, and he isn't the best boxer in the world (nobody's claiming he is, unlike your "DLH walks on water" crap). He's definitely good, and one of my favorite fighters, but Oscar in his prime would have stopped Cotto in 6 (That's your opinion. I personally think it would've been much closer).

Please refer to my comments above.
Have a nice day.

Your arguements have no logic to them, I like COtto more than Oscar, but Oscar would kill him. He's faster, more powerful, more of a man, way better chin. Cotto crumpled after a just a few rounds being hit cleanly by Margarito. While Cotto was in his prime. Watch the Oscar-Mosley II fight, why do you think Oscar landed so many more punches than Mosley if he wasn't outboxing him? The Trinidad fight was a bullshit decision, and anyone who wasn't blind saw Oscar win the first 9 rounds, even the last 3 rounds Trinidad could hardly get anything done.

Oscar wasn't owned by Sturm, Sturm won that fight, but it was competitive. Also Oscar never fought guys in their prime, what about Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Quartey, Past his prime or not Whitaker (Oscar was the first person to beat him).

Also how was the body shot by Hopkins grazing? At least he didn't go down without a punch landing like Cotto did the second time he went down against Margarito. You are talking about Oscar being stopped by one of the best fighters ever in Bernard Hopkins. How do you explain Cotto crumpling against a guy he was able to do whatever he wanted to in the first 6 rounds? At least Oscar wasn't rocked and nearly KO'ed by the likes of Ricardo Torres and Demarcus Corley.

If Vargas was ruined after the Trinidad fight, he wouldn't have fought so well against Oscar or Rivera. Let's remember he was coming back from the three knockdowns pretty well in the fourth round before Trinidad resorted to low blows, just like Cotto.

Further more you say Mayweather and Pacquiao are undersized, yet they would both beat Cotto, Pacquiao would stop him faster than he stopped Oscar.

Oscar was among the very best in the sport, so was Cotto, but Oscar is clearly the better fighter out of the two.

firstly a few rounds ?? 11 to be precise so over 90% of the fight not 'just a few rounds', let marg hit you for 11 rounds and see how you do infact would be interesting to see oscar stand up to the violence Margarito dished out that night

secondly, you are wrong Oscar won most of the first 9 maybe, 5 out of them 9 IMO, Trinidad cleaned up the last 3 so thats 115-113 Trinidad