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    Default Re: Kahn v Barrera???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    I dont care how much you try to shovel my way

    World class operators dont fight in chinese gyms with 17 loss fighters nor do they fight 17 fight guys with 4 losses..

    Its apparent and you are doing what you do best here and thats try to baffle with BS..

    Keep your opinion because Im not changing mine.. end of!!!! He isnt what he used to be.. Do you even remember how many rounds he won in the 24 against Pac and JMM I dont care about your score card Im talking about the official...

    109-118 2X 112-115 once Pac

    111-116 2x 109-118 once JMM

    I would hardly call that impressive, so yea that shoots the argument you made to shit
    Why are you getting frustrated for ? im just debating with you thats it, you was bending the truth and wasn't telling the whole story. MAB is fighting tune up fights like he did after his two losses to Junior Jones, i don't get why you feel any different ? why else would he be fighting two bums for other than to get the rust off and get some rounds in ?

    You are really clutching at straws now JT, Yea MAB really lost to JMM by 5 points/9 points

    Almost every boxing expert and everyone on this forum had that fight a very close fight, and quite a fair amount of people thought MAB won. Your argument is weak and you haven't shot anything to bits. Just because Lewis/Holyfield 1, Whitaker vs Chavez 1, were both draws and the "Official results" you really think those fights were scored that way in a correct way ? please. Thats very flawed logic.

    JMM vs MAB was a very close contested battle and i had no problem with JMM getting the result. But by that amount ? get the hell out of here, its not just my opinion its just common sense and knowing how to score a fight.

    Manny Pacquiao vs MAB 2 wasn't really close but i feel MAB was pretty much staying there with Manny Pacquiao, until the 9th round where Manny Pacquiao sweeped most of the championship rounds, but i think everyone was pretty much impressed with MAB's performance. He just wasn't active enough.

    But i don't see how losing 1 very close decision to the P4P number 2 fighter, and giving a good effort against the P4P number 1 fighter. Is any argument to suggest Amir Khan has a shot against MAB or that MAB is totally shot i just don't get your logic.
    I tell you what because we are both confidence in our opinion's. Why not just have a bet on the fight ? that settles the argument and the winner gets the bragging rights.
    How am I bending the truth?? He is Old by Boxing standards!!! I was a freshman in high school 1989 when Barrera tuned pro and now I am 33, Marco is old and thats the reality

    Also you bring up the Junior Jones losses, why? at that level sure I can see taking 2 scrub fights because he wasnt the renowned world class hall of famer

    it wasnt until after that he beat

    Tapia

    Ayala

    Hamed

    Kelly

    Morales 2X
    and other stops along the way.

    That he became the legend he is..My point is if you achieved a level of greatness like he did, you dont fight in chinese gyms against God awful opposition. When you regress that far back, your not great anymore, plain and simple. You dont have it, its over..

    Kahn has tremendous upside to him, sure he has a suspect chin but he has all the tangibles and tools to be an excellent fighter, if they can work to help protect that chin, than he will do good things.. That my friend will be enough to defeat an old, uninterested past his best Barrera

    I am getting no more frustrated than you did at Bilbo when he was debating with you about Kahns speeding, and aspirations of being a champion
    Last edited by JT Rock; 01-18-2009 at 01:19 AM.

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