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    Default Re: Berto Promises a rematch!

    I think, if a rematch comes off, that Berto is going to make the necessary adjustments and pull off a UD victory. When he stayed on the outside and boxed, Berto did very well, he just got drawn into infighting (perhaps due to fatigue?). I expect him to recognise this, correct it, and box his way to a UD in the rematch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I think, if a rematch comes off, that Berto is going to make the necessary adjustments and pull off a UD victory. When he stayed on the outside and boxed, Berto did very well, he just got drawn into infighting (perhaps due to fatigue?). I expect him to recognise this, correct it, and box his way to a UD in the rematch.
    Berto's infighting suprised me against Collazo, there were many moments where Berto seemed very confused. Granted this is from the skill of Collazo, but Berto will need to make some adjustments or Collazo with extra confidence will take more rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I think, if a rematch comes off, that Berto is going to make the necessary adjustments and pull off a UD victory. When he stayed on the outside and boxed, Berto did very well, he just got drawn into infighting (perhaps due to fatigue?). I expect him to recognise this, correct it, and box his way to a UD in the rematch.
    i'd say UD or TKO.. Collazo absorbed Berto's big shots, but Berto wasn't hitting him with many combinations in the last half of the fight.. Berto will need to conserve his energy and not fight on the inside and just drop some big shots from the outside.. Eventually Collazo will feel them, and at the very least be effected to the point where Berto will cruise to a UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
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    I think, if a rematch comes off, that Berto is going to make the necessary adjustments and pull off a UD victory. When he stayed on the outside and boxed, Berto did very well, he just got drawn into infighting (perhaps due to fatigue?). I expect him to recognise this, correct it, and box his way to a UD in the rematch.
    i'd say UD or TKO.. Collazo absorbed Berto's big shots, but Berto wasn't hitting him with many combinations in the last half of the fight.. Berto will need to conserve his energy and not fight on the inside and just drop some big shots from the outside.. Eventually Collazo will feel them, and at the very least be effected to the point where Berto will cruise to a UD.
    Berto closed very strong IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    I think, if a rematch comes off, that Berto is going to make the necessary adjustments and pull off a UD victory. When he stayed on the outside and boxed, Berto did very well, he just got drawn into infighting (perhaps due to fatigue?). I expect him to recognise this, correct it, and box his way to a UD in the rematch.
    i'd say UD or TKO.. Collazo absorbed Berto's big shots, but Berto wasn't hitting him with many combinations in the last half of the fight.. Berto will need to conserve his energy and not fight on the inside and just drop some big shots from the outside.. Eventually Collazo will feel them, and at the very least be effected to the point where Berto will cruise to a UD.
    Berto closed very strong IMO.
    i agree, he had a great 12th round.. he threw more meaningful punches in that round than the 4 rounds before it.. even though he probably won most of those 4 rounds previous, he seemed very sluggish and off balance..

    in the other thread about this fight, my first comment was that i felt Collazo won by a point, due to the deduction, and that Berto could have made the fight a WHOLE lot easier than it was if he just stuck to his guns.. I was more disappointed in the showing of Berto, cause i enjoy watching him fight, than anything else.. i'm criticizing him because i know he can fight much better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
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    i'd say UD or TKO.. Collazo absorbed Berto's big shots, but Berto wasn't hitting him with many combinations in the last half of the fight.. Berto will need to conserve his energy and not fight on the inside and just drop some big shots from the outside.. Eventually Collazo will feel them, and at the very least be effected to the point where Berto will cruise to a UD.
    Berto closed very strong IMO.
    i agree, he had a great 12th round.. he threw more meaningful punches in that round than the 4 rounds before it.. even though he probably won most of those 4 rounds previous, he seemed very sluggish and off balance..

    in the other thread about this fight, my first comment was that i felt Collazo won by a point, due to the deduction, and that Berto could have made the fight a WHOLE lot easier than it was if he just stuck to his guns.. I was more disappointed in the showing of Berto, cause i enjoy watching him fight, than anything else.. i'm criticizing him because i know he can fight much better..
    I wouldn't be too disappointed in Berto. He's a relatively young fighter, not even 25 fights into his career, and Collazo has only definitively been defeated twice. I've never seen the Cassiani fight, but in the Mosley fight he suffered an injury, which I feel is a legitimate excuse for his poor performance; I feel he beat Hatton, barely. It's fights like this, being they close victories or losses, that young fighters often learn from. During the broadcast, Lewis was talking about how he felt his losses made him a better fighter. The same case could be made for Berto in this instance. I fully expect him to win the rematch, in which he will have a chance to demonstrate what he has learned. Berto showed a great desire to win in the 11th and 12th rounds, winning both, hurting Collazo in the process, and claiming the victory. As long as Berto learns from the Collazo fight(s), they could be the best thing for him. If he made the same kind of mistakes against a Cotto or a Margarito, he wouldn't have the chance to recover, come back, and win the fight.

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    Default Re: Berto Promises a rematch!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Berto closed very strong IMO.
    i agree, he had a great 12th round.. he threw more meaningful punches in that round than the 4 rounds before it.. even though he probably won most of those 4 rounds previous, he seemed very sluggish and off balance..

    in the other thread about this fight, my first comment was that i felt Collazo won by a point, due to the deduction, and that Berto could have made the fight a WHOLE lot easier than it was if he just stuck to his guns.. I was more disappointed in the showing of Berto, cause i enjoy watching him fight, than anything else.. i'm criticizing him because i know he can fight much better..
    I wouldn't be too disappointed in Berto. He's a relatively young fighter, not even 25 fights into his career, and Collazo has only definitively been defeated twice. I've never seen the Cassiani fight, but in the Mosley fight he suffered an injury, which I feel is a legitimate excuse for his poor performance; I feel he beat Hatton, barely. It's fights like this, being they close victories or losses, that young fighters often learn from. During the broadcast, Lewis was talking about how he felt his losses made him a better fighter. The same case could be made for Berto in this instance. I fully expect him to win the rematch, in which he will have a chance to demonstrate what he has learned. Berto showed a great desire to win in the 11th and 12th rounds, winning both, hurting Collazo in the process, and claiming the victory. As long as Berto learns from the Collazo fight(s), they could be the best thing for him. If he made the same kind of mistakes against a Cotto or a Margarito, he wouldn't have the chance to recover, come back, and win the fight.

    Collazo looked hurt against Cassiani, but I think the stoppage was early.

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    Luis Collazo was on the verge of going down in the last round, he had nothing left and went to the groud from exhaustion. Andre Berto will win a rematch more comfortably this time, i predicted the scores would be 116-112, 116-113, 115-113.

    And i would stick with those scores in a rematch aswell, i still think it will be competitive. But Andre Berto will go to the body more this time, he did hurt Luis Collazo pretty bad in the last round with a body shot. So i think he will go to the body more this time for certain, and also box more from the outside using his speed he had his best success on the outside. And also not square himself up when he's on the inside with Luis Collazo.

    I actually wouldn't be suprised if he managed to stop Luis Collazo late on by going to the body more, and we all know Andre Berto can finish a fight very strong. But i would say another UD win for Andre Berto but this time a more convincing win.
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